Saturday night, just before the LifeLock.com 400 at Chicagoland Speedway, a NASCAR official stood in the way of J.J. Yeley's No. 96 Toyota preventing him from joining the field for the start of the race.
As the field was taking its pace laps, Yeley was allowed to join the back of the pack. But just after the green, the team was ordered to bring the car in for a stop-and-go penalty. Then, on its first pit stop, the team got a speeding penalty.
The word from NASCAR, as the race was starting, was that Yeley's team had made a suspicious switch of the container holding Yeley's drinking water. One of the old stock-car tricks in the books is to put lead inside a water container to be used when the car is going through inspection. Once the car is weighed and cleared, the real water bottle is put in and the car is a little bit lighter.
NASCAR apparently thought Yeley's team was up to something like that. So NASCAR showed the Hall of Fame team who was boss. It applied the kind of "justice" that some people still think is colorful, if a bit heavy-handed.
The problem was, Yeley's team wasn't "up" to much of anything. Somebody changed the water container after inspection because they wanted the water Yeley would drink to actually be cold -- or at least cool -- during the race.
Now if the NASCAR procedure is for an official to be there for any such switch so he or she can be sure there's no hanky-panky, and if the team made the switch without an official present, the team was wrong. Procedures should be followed. But procedures also should have penalties associated with them, and those penalties should be such that it's not about NASCAR officials acting on some punitive whim.
At Infineon, another race team changed an engine after a practice and then told NASCAR it had done so. Part of the single-engine per event rule is that the team tells NASCAR first, then NASCAR looks to make sure the engine being changed actually has a problem and isn't just one the team doesn't like having in its car.
Again, if the team violated the procedure it deserves to be sanctioned for that. Maybe it loses practice time at the next race. Or maybe it's penalized a lap or two at the start of the race. Whatever, but the penalty should be set forth in simple terms.
What actually happened, though, was that NASCAR officials were angered by that team's temerity. So after the race at Infineon, that team was the "random" team selected for postrace inspection. (After each race, the top five plus one team chosen at "random" go through postrace teardown.)
After the next race at Loudon, oddly, the same team was the postrace "random" pick. And again, after the race at Daytona, the same team got picked again by "random."
NASCAR showed them, right?
Well yeah, but is that right and is that fair? Is that the way things should be officiated? I don't think so.
There's a scene in "Days of Thunder" where the man playing the Bill France character tells rival car owners about an inspection process on shipping docks where produce is allowed to rot before inspectors who would clear it ever even look at it. The stuff never failed inspection, it was just ruined before anybody ever touched it. The owners in the movie were being warned that's the kind of treatment they might get if they didn't toe the line.
It's common for a team that somehow feels it has somehow crossed NASCAR to fear that it's going to get a handful of speeding penalties in a subsequent race. That's not officiating, that intimidating. And it has no room in a truly professional sport.
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
No room for selective enforcement
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It's hard for an organization with an ever-changing rulebook to be called "professional".
how reliable is the team's cold water claim? I would need a source stronger than the team itself to buy into that excuse and fault NASCAR in this instance.
In the rest of the world as a country we fight to depose dictators, we in this country break up so called manopolies like Ma Bell. In raceing we say you go France family rule as you see fit on any given day or lap.
But Poole, are you claiming all the reports of the water container's contents being replaced with lead are untrue?
If that is the case shouldn't you also excoriate your fellow ink-stained scribes for misreporting what actually occurred?
If it's not and the team actually changed out the water for lead to gain an advantage where's the problem?
Why do the teams that get penalized seem to be the ones who are running in the back of the pack anyway? Makes you wonder what the ones up front are up to and if the officals turn a bling eye to the teams who bring in the most revenue.
THE WORD IS "MANIPULATION". PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Let's face it, NASCAR under the France family is a lot like WWF under Vince McMahon. Good guys/bad guys, mystery cautions for unseen debris on the tracks, selective enforcement of the rules....
NASCAR is fun to watch, but it is hard to take seriously as a legitimate sport due to the whims of the officiating.
as i have stated many times, it is an insult to professional wrestling to be compared to nascar. in terms of integrity, racing is far behind the wwe. vince mcmahon is lying to you, but he told you long ago he was lying. nascar lies and expects you to believe it is tru, fair and just.
David the NASCAR penalty report doesn't show Yeley getting called in for excessive speeding at any point during the race.
And the worst part is there are certain teams that never get this kind of intimidation even after being caught in flagrant cheating.
this sounds like bs...i dunno
DAVID, It is not at all clear from what you wrote that NASCAR did anything wrong - except maybe for not having a rule written down about exactly what the penalty would be for making an unsupervised alteration to a car after inspection. Now Lee Spencer's writing categorically that the team had been caught switching out a lead filled container for one containing water was clearly wrong and hasty. If you are going to criticize NASCAR for what you perceive to be mishandling, then to be consistent you should also criticize your media peers for falsely accusing the team of blatant cheating - and so far I've seen no correction of Spencer's accusation.
Folks, the reporters who wrote about what the team was being penalized for didn't make that up. They were told by NASCAR officials why the 96 team was held. Then, after NASCAR got its story straight, they were told that things weren't perhaps as they had seemed to be. If you see a car get held in the garage, as a reporter to go to NASCAR and say "Why is that happening?" If NASCAR tells you something in reply, isn't that a pretty good source? -- DAVID POOLE
NASCAR jumped to the wrong conclusion and couldn't wait to penalize the 96 team. If they had waited till after the race, they could have taken points and money if there was an infraction. Since they didn't wait, the 96 was penalized wrongly.
I have no problem with the media reporting what they were told by NASCAR. However, as of this morning, some of the media have yet to correct the error.
David, did NASCAR admit that the team merely wanted cold water or did the 96 team claim that to be the case? I am trying to determine who is using what source, because obviously someone in the media has it wrong....for whatever reason.
Sorta like Junior won the Pepsi 400 in July of '01 (first visit to Daytona sans Senior) with a car that could accelerate on a whim and do things a plate car shouldn't...or like Jeff Gordon "conveniently" won the first Brickyard 400...or no yellow at the end of the '07 Daytona 500.
Poole is dead-on right with his post, but it's also NASCAR's football, like it or not.
Poole - dead on right again. Still waiting for the 500 point rule. One day....
To my understanding from someone on pitroad, Naskar fuggedduck! AND admitted that there was not infractions found. But to HOF thats no concession for a team that teeters in the P36...Wonder WHO(team/owner) made the accusation?...Back when I traded paint if we filed a claim like that it was Money on the barrelhead, IF an infraction wasn't found we where out the cash, Simple enough.
First of all NASCAR would have known at the very instant it looked at the containers if there was lead in them. They knew that BEFORE the inspector stood in front of the car, before Yeley joined the field late, and before he received a stop and go penalty that was not put on the penalty report. To me, it sounds like a post- incident coverup.
Im sorry but Nascar has become a joke. They do whatever they want. Just like Toyota comming with Formula one technology. Why are the gibs teams so good this year. Is nascar helping them along. We mite as well start calling nascar world wrestling on wheels. Who's going to win the brickyard, Kyle Busch and Toyota. Place your bets now. It's already planed. In the days of Earnhardt, Rudd, Petty, Alison,Jarrett,Walltrip, Bonnett,and yes even Gordon, We watched a sport common men working and giving there all to win. Now we watch a show. Like going to a concert, You know what your going to see. Nascar mite as well start building all the cars and give the best ones to who they want to win. The France family has killed the sport by holding back the drivers and adding a dumb as hell car. Why dont they just have the teams buy factory cars to run. They would be slower and the cost would come down a lot. With the slower speeds they should be so much saffer to. It's not a sport anymore it's just the Frances way of lossing fans and looking stupid.
Hard to believe that this type of behavior still goes on in 2008.
NASCAR would deny it - but then again they are denying the racial incident claims too! Hard to believe THAT type of behavior still goes on.
Bottom line - "It's still the good old boys NASCAR" in 2008.
Nascar is the ONLY professional sport where there is not a clear and defined penalty for infractions. We should never have to wait till Tuesday to find out what the penalties will be. We should know when it happens what the penalty will be based on preset rules. It makes it hard for fans to take the sanctioning body seriously. To be honest, if it weren't for the excitement of cars racing at 200mph I would have no interest in Nascar. Nascar reminds me of playing on the playground as a child. You make the rules and penalties up as you go, especially if it is your ball they are playing with.
DAVID- As I recall, Spencer did not cite a source, just that the HOF team was guilty of having had a lead-filled water container in the car that was discovered when they tried to change it. I looked today and it appears the article has been pulled as I cannot find it. The car had gone through inspection and then the team made a modification without NASCAR supervising the modification. As I understand it, when NASCAR became aware of such, they re-examined the car and re-weighed it to ascertain whether there was any sizeable change in weight, which there was not. Then for a minor infraction (unsupervised modification after inspection) NASCAR imposed a minor penalty, a pass-thru or stop-and-go. NASCAR'S action seems appropriate and reasonable - more so than hastily writing that a team had grossly cheated and then failing to write a correction. Whether or not such an occurence (unsupervised modification) is covered or not in the rule book is known only to those that have a copy of the rule book. HOF did not cheat, but they could have and NASCAR checked to make sure they had not.
Sorta like Junior won the Pepsi 400 in July of '01 (first visit to Daytona sans Senior) with a car that could accelerate on a whim and do things a plate car shouldn't...
Yep that was a question with an obvious answer. No wonder jr looked so sheepish when he crawled out of the un-plated car.
I have to agree with the comments about Nascar's rules allowing them to officiate inconsistently. Nascar as an organization needs to sit down, and re-write their rule book in a manner that is clear, and concise. No more blanket rules such as "actions detrimental to stock car racing" which could mean anything. Copies of the new rule book should be distributed to the teams, officials, sports broadcasters, and be made available to the fans. This would help to ensure consistent officiating. Nascar needs consistent rules enforcement, and also needs to get back to racing, and not just putting on a show.
Hey David, Nascar is a fifedom- not a democracy. Always remember that and you'll have a lot better understanding of their way of doing business. If you think Nascar is bad, try F1 on for size.
Does anybody believe NASCAR writes "The Script" ?
Dale Jr in 2001
Jimmy Spencer in 1994
Even Petty in 1984 ?
It does seem like the back of the pack dwellers get picked on. Been a fan for 45 years and just like the wrestling addiction I watch it.It would be nice to see a fresh face in the winners circle every now and then. Most of these drivers today wouldn't make a zit on Cale's, Pearson's, Allison's,or Petty's butt.The rules or somewhat are bent every week for someone. A car is to high or low ormaybe an oil cooler box don't have a cover a rule is a rule.The Frances dictate what happens and always have and will.
Whether or not the team did anything underhanded involving leaded water bags, they still made unsupervised changes to the car, after the official pre-race inspection. That's against the rules. NASCAR levied a reasonable penalty for that violation. And if you take the time to examine the official NASCAR penalty report for the race, you'll see that the #96 was not penalized for speeding on pit road. Another fantastic Poole conspiracy theory shot to pieces.
The next C.O.T.? Cup Of Tomorrow
all the teams are the same, they come in white only, and like the rule book are full of holes and won't hold water or lead
With the lawsuit from the black, female Nationwide series official pending, it seems to me that NASCAR would be smart enough not to pull stunts like they did with the 96 Team. That's just more "proof in the pudding" that what the woman filing the lawsuit says is true. Come on NASCAR, stop being your own worst enemy!
One nice thing about NASCAR is that they make it totally unncessary for conspiracy theorism. Their blatant disregard for the fair and equitable application of "its" rules is obvious enough to preclude the need for such thinking.
If only Bruton Smith and a couple of other big dogs would get together and form another league. One that valued owner and driver in-put.
Steve Lazzari
Louisville, KY.
Bruton values input only from the mirror and cares not about who he hurts. Ask the people in Wilkes County where he has destroyed the North Wilkesboro speedway, with Bob Bahre's help.
It's nice to break the habit.I've been clean this whole season.havn't watched one show[race]on tv.I think I'll go to my local dirt track and watch the real good ole boys race.I know the officials pick on the back of the pack boys too,but it's a lot more fun,Not nearly expensive.
So, with no room for selective enforcement, should NASCAR set a rule to determine "cool" water? Is that 40-60F?
I know of no other sport or business whatsoever where the "rules" are continually made on the fly, except in NASCAR of course. And all of us fans are supposed to look the other way and act as stupid as they think we are? Sorry, NASCAR, but your greed and selective "rules" are showing again, you think? Checked Jr's water bottle lately? lol
That's life some people get away with more than others. Plus we seem to give people we like the benefit of the doubt.
It's not fare unless you are the one getting the benefit of the doubt then it's well deserved.
That's all I have to say about that.
Forrest Gump,
I still have not found where Lee Spencer has issued a correction and apology for reporting that HOF had been caught with lead in the water container. Just selective accuracy.
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