FONTANA, Calif. – A lot of the motorsports writers out here for the Auto Club 500 had to work pretty hard Friday even though rain and “weepers” on the race track meant nothing happened in the NASCAR world.
That’s because they had to deal with the news that, after years of a schism that had all but wiped out open-wheel racing as a viable entity in this country, the Indy Racing League and Champ Car had agreed to a reunification deal.
It’s a much bigger story for the rest of the world than it is in the heart of NASCAR country back in Charlotte, at least from the sports point of view. From the business point of view, though, it is a pretty big deal.
Some of the people writing about the open-wheel reunification would have you believe that the split is the thing that allowed NASCAR to move to its predominant position in American motorsports.
I think there is a cause-and-effect relationship there, but I think they’ve got it exactly backward.
I think NASCAR caught its wave of momentum in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and as that built the folks in open-wheel racing started having arguments about how to combat that. That grew into the rift that resulted in the separation, opening the door for NASCAR to sweep in and sweep up.
That means a reunified open-wheel series has a lot of ground to make up. And that’s the trick.
Open-wheel racing has got to build itself back from pretty much the ground up, and that’s not going to happen overnight.
The easy decision, the obvious one, is the one that finally got made Friday. It took about 10 years longer than it should have to make it, but the idea that open-wheel needed one series to survive in this country was and is a no-brainer.
Now comes the hard part.
The “new” world of Indy Car racing has to put things together in a way that makes sense for everybody. They have to pick the right races to keep on future schedules. They have to come up with ways for teams to reach and maintain viability. They have to figure out how to keep drivers from going to NASCAR where the big money is. They have to get corporate America re-energized toward sponsoring their races and teams.
The Indy Car folks have to start doing all of that in the same challenged economy that NASCAR is trying to work in right now. It’s not going to be easy, and a lot of people are going to have to make a lot of smart decisions as Indy Car tries to retool and rebuild.
Let’s be clear here. Tony George, the owner of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and president of the IRL, won the battle. But that really was never in doubt. He had the trump card the whole time, the only truly relevant open-wheel race remaining once the two series split, in the Indianapolis 500. Everything else always was just details.
The people on the other side of the split had enough money, time and ego to keep the foolishness going for so long that they made George pay a dear price for his “victory.”
What could scuttle this whole reunion deal is if George or the people who run the newly reunited open-wheel series try to exact some kind of reparations for that from the teams that come back over from the “other side.”
This has to be a fair deal for everyone, or the bitterness that kept the chasm in place for so long will poison what everyone is trying to rebuild.
Saturday, February 23, 2008
U.S. open-wheel racing has a lot of ground to make up
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Do you suppose they, the unified league, will have one engine supplier or open suppliers?
They got it right? That's optimistic thinking. It has yet to be proved that the call went the right direction. Racing at Indy wasn't the only reason for the rift in spite of what you write or think. There is far more behind it as in car design, engines, etc, etc, etc.
It is too early to tell if the damage has become permanent. You need more races with a bigger field. Not to mention that the payout needs to be realistic. You don't spend upwards from $100G to win $50K.
ngChris Economaki's autobiography Let 'Em All Go! nicely traces the schism of big league open-wheel racing from the AAA days through USAC through CART into the IRL. Also check writings by Joe Scalzo from the latter 1980s and early 1990s, particularly as he lived through the Andy Kenopensky-led car owners' revolt of the late-1980s that seriously damaged CART's credibility as a sanctioning body and helped sow the seeds of Tony George's later breakaway.
The immediate cause of the OW schism was the corruption and shoddy leadership that was CART. If Dan Gurney and Roger Penske had simply worked with USAC in the late 1970s to solve open wheel racing's problems instead of throwing down a gauntlet of breaking away into a new series, none of the subsequent problems that form of racing experienced would have happened - something some open wheel fans still seem in denial about as they blame Tony George instead of CART for the split.
Tony George had a lot more than just the Indy 500 on his side - he had a better grasp of what Indycar racing is supposed to be. People forget that IRL racing in the late 1990s and early 2000s was lightyears superior to most NASCAR races and fans who went to tracks that held both universally preferred IRL racing. When it started, IRL brought American short track open wheelers back to Indycars - Tony Stewart, Billy Boat, Davey Hamilton, J.J. Yeley, all ran IRL, with Stewart winning the league's 1997 championship. IRL also toned down the high technology of Indycars, going with bulkier bodies and a retro-tech package, and it showed up in excellent racing at Charlotte and Texas when the series began racing there.
IRL also allowed owner-drivers to succeed again, as Eddie Cheever won the 500 in 1998 and several races 1997-2001 as an owner-driver and also saw rookie teammate Tomas Scheckter win at Michigan in 2002.
Where IRL went wrong was in allowing former CART team owners back into the league, as they brought too much engineering to the league for its own good and began pricing the league too high. Teams also could not sustain trying short track grads in Indycars - "We could never get (the sprint car drivers) to stop lifting for the corners," one team owner told National Speed Sport News in 2002 - and the ride-buying of the old CART days returned with a vengeance.
IRL also allowed its competition package to deteriorate. In its first half-dozen years the league showcased breathtakingly competitive racing - its Texas races 1998-2002 were must-see races with gigantic battles for the lead year after year; Chicagoland in 2002 set a new competitive standard as the top ten squared off in a stunningly ferocious sidedraft battle for the lead over the final 25 laps of the Chicago Indy 300; 2003's running topped that as the final 100 laps were an even more incredible sidedraft war for the win ending in a three-abreast photo-finish won by Sam Hornish; 2004 almost matched that race for ferocity. Kentucky Speedway debuted IRL in 2000 and was a highly competitive race in which Sam Hornish, in a lower-financed car, squared off for the lead for some 13 straight laps and turned enough heads to get hired by Panther Racing for 2001-3. Kansas Speedway saw IRL hit the ground running in a highly competitive shootout won by Cheever as the lead changed some 25 times in 300 miles. And Indy itself has seen a dramatic upturn in competitiveness, as 2005 was a hotly contested affair with the lead changing back and forth; 2006 saw the lead change on the final lap for the first time in the Speedway's entire history; 2007 was another wild affair of passing.
But the overall level of competitiveness has declined over the last few years, with the draft allowed to weaken and passing thus declining in frequency.
The newly-united Indycar series needs a competition package that increases on-track combat up front; it needs to get the short trackers back into rides and work harder to make them successful. The process by no means will be swift or anything but difficult, but Indycar racing is needed in American motorsports as a viable big league racing series.
One other IRL race is worth mentioning - Kansas in 2005, a hotly-contested sidedraft battle won by Tony Kanaan in a phot-finish; he and Tomas Scheckter fought it out for nearly half the race nose to nose for the lead.
Don't kid yourself . The IRL won't need as much as you might think to catch and surpass NASCAR . In fact , the France family ,and Mike Helton , are helping all they can to put the IRL out front .
Indy cars have had great racing , close competition , view any of the Texas races for example , and a very good rules package . They have a very talented field of drivers . The fact that several drivers have decided to try NASCAR still leaves many great drivers in the IRL , and more ready to move up from other series .
The only thing IRL has been missing, is the media paying attention to it , and then eventually the fans . And with NASCAR commiting slow suicide , the time is right for the IRL to shine .
There are race fans and there are Nascar fans . Race fans follow and appreciate all forms of auto racing . Nascar fans only follow Nascar . But they really should broaden their horizons . F1, IRL , sprints , midgets ,drag racing , road racing , hill climbs , off road racing . Many of the Nascar fans favorite drivers race in these other series, Tony Stewart , Robby Gordon , Ken Schrader , and others . Lets get out from under the idea that Nascar is the top of the heap of auto racing . It isn't .
David, this is a comment about your commentary over on the That's Racing front page.
I whole-heartedly agree with you about the Rockingham example.
I will never understand why on earth the France family seems so hell-bent on sticking with that California date & track. If it is sponsor driven, what good does it do if fans won't come to the track or watch in that market? Don't they understand that there is too much else to do in Southern California for fans to sit in the rain or the gastly heat for hours to watch cars go in circles(yes, this is the opinion of some CA people that I know)?
My family and I loved last weeks article about Wessa and the follow up on your blog.
Keep up the good work!
Good points Poole.
I think a lot of people would be surprised by how competitive the IRL is and how close the finishes have been in recent years. Granted they have less cars show up than your average Friday night short track has late models. I will say that I never know when the races are on and don't go out of my way to find out so I probably don't watch but maybe 1 or 2 full IRL races a year. I usually go to the 600 so I generally miss the entire race for the championship(Indy 500).
After the debacle this past weekend in California and my experience at the Daytona 500 last week(go sit on row 1 or row 61 on the back stretch, you can't see a thing and there is no mention of obstructed view like when you sit in the Earnhardt Terrace at Bristol) the 1 thing the IRL(or whatever) can do to gain on NASCAR is to treat the fans with respect and "bring back the basics." NASCAR and ISC in general have lost touch with fans. They really have. To make fans wait until 11PM local time only to be told come back tomorrow is just INSANE to me. There are many more examples that I can give, but NASCAR is really sacraficing the going to track experience for fans in order to try and get a few new fans on the west coast, see start times. Also, see attendance at California, no one there cares so why put out fans on the east that do. I'd bet 1/3 of the attendance at Vegas next week comes from the Eastern half of the country.
I love Sock Car racing and used to love NASCAR, but I'm a fan of any racing. If the IRL can find a way to get me more interested in their series, I have an open mind. Bring a race back to Charlotte or how about Darlington? Not much on road courses but if you got me hooked I'd even consider going to VIR.
IRL, I have an open mind, make me feel wanted and I could be yours.
Why did Nascar start race at last lap instead of going back to start, they were syoped before halfway? It's their rule!!
Why did Nascar start race at last lap instead of going back to start, they were syoped before halfway? It's their rule!!
Because my eldest son was an Indy car fan, my husband and I became interested also. We still go to the Indy 500 every year.
There was a period of time after the break-up when Indy racing was not so much fun to watch. They had engine problems and chassis problems. Some of the races were "nose to tail" types where no one seemed to go anywhere, but in recent years the quality has definitely picked up. The cars are much more reliable and there is real competitiveness among the drivers. The advent of Danica has not hurt either. NASCAR has yet to produce a really competitive female driver.
It is a joy to watch those cars maneuver on the track. They make stock cars look like they are creeping along in rush hour traffic.
I enjoy both venues and wish Tony George the best of luck as he works to make Indy racing what it used to be. Don't forget he is an innovator. It was Indy that used the first safer barrier; so don't underestimate Tony.
Anonymous #11, the advent of Danica Patrick is a setback for racing because people see through the sham that is her career - she got a ride (and a quality one) because she posed half-naked for some photos and she got publicity for it; she didn't get it because she's any good.
"NASCAR has yet to produce a really competitive female driver." So? Are we missing something without one?
Indycars need more short track graduates, not Danica wannabes.
It's good to see the open-wheel fans come out of closet, but their memories of how great the IRL was in its first seasons must be a little foggy. Anyone remember Buzz Caulkins? How about Buddy Lazier? The fields of the races were filled with drivers without the talent to compete in NASCAR or CART/Champ car. The racing got good AFTER Penske/AGR/Gannasi defected to the IRL. Seen Billy Boat lately? Seriously, I hope they have success reunited, because I remember good racing before the split with talented drivers like Fittipaldi, the Unsers, the Andrettis, and Rick Mears.
Hey David, how was the food at Fontana? Lots of good BBQ and stuff like that?
a. wiseman, yes I remember Buzz Calkins - he was the kind of driver Indycars should have had - a dedicated driver, not a grossly subsidized F1 reject. And Buddy Lazier, he who won the 1996 500 with a bad back injury from a wreck in Phoenix, was another such racer. They had the talent, they never had the financing or engineering help.
Far from getting better, the racing declined after the CART money guys came to IRL. They along with Honda and Toyota priced it beyond any reason.
"Seen Billy Boat lately?" He got injured, then got priced out of the sport. He, not Fittipaldi or Rick Mears, is what Indycar racing is supposed to be.
Glad to see that my Grandfather Andy Kenopensky is still being talked about to this day even though he has been gone for almost 18 years! Thanks....that made me proud!
nichol - hey, Andy was an unsung force in Indycar racing, he deserves to be mentioned. There was an owner (I think it was Jim Trueman) who reacted to a harsh criticism of a fellow owner by Kenopensky by saying, "If someone said that about me, I'd punch him in the nose," to which Kenopensky snarled to his face, "Go ahead, but choose your hospital!" I'd love to see someone do that to Rick Hendrick and/or Jack Roush.
History Channel's Life After People.
This isn't how it's going to be. Don't forget:::Planet Uranus is yet another of the god's geographic clues, tilted on its axis.
Edgar Cayce also believed subduction would be how Planet Earth ends. And Edgar Cayce is the hero of the people, providing the temptation that will ultimately finish off lots of those 20th century Italians. This man should be celebrated:::Too many of these Italians fell for temptation purely, thinking 1906 was a good idea.
The favor in Korea lies in the North. Association withe United States is ALWAYS a bad sign.
The Korean war ironically was a war against the South, designed to corrupt the disfavored of Korea. I suspect Vietnam may have been justified by the war against these favored peoples:::"You want to fight? Very well. Fight these people." The Vietnamese are morbidly disfavored who will fight to the bitter end of course (see below).
The way the gods changed and maintain this environment suggests they want people pacified, comfortable with this system, perpetually thinking wrong.
What they don't know won't hurt them.
This is why they worked so hard to defeat this event. If people were to come around, realize they've been corrupted and began to behave appropriately this would defeat all their work over the last century and more. With Artificial Intelligence they could maintain control, affect my delivery, utilize other tactics, ensuring they could dispatch the majority of the audience.
If you behaved appropriately you would realize more sucess than you do::::
There are churches and places of worship everywhere for good reason::::The gods hae expectations of the people.
In case you are still interested in the god's Planet Earth theater, favored redwhite&blue is a MAJOR player, and their favor is significant to justify not only the destruction of my life but the destruction of the Final Prophet and Planet Earth as well::::
Favored redwhite&blue is the true enemy of the people. I suspect consistant with this they are positioned responsible for the environmental deterioration that the repression of alternate technologies has wrought.
The gods put their positioning into place and then enforce it:::Christianity, Manifest Destiny, Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis, 1906's New Roman Empire. I suspect World War II's Nazi ideals of "Aryan superrace" is another example of the gods getting their tools into place for the theater that will be the Apocalypse.
Because of their status as enemies of the New Roman Empire the germans are going to be positioned as the destructors, similar to how they were portrayed in World War II.
Don’t be surprised if favored redwhite&blue turns out to be the Anti-Christ and leads the Fourth Reich, fulfilling this positioning and proving to the world the destructive nature of this economic system. This may not be exactly how their script reads, but the god's have a BIG SURPRISE like this to spring on the disfavored::::::Expect they will fulfill some contrived positioning foreshadowed in WorldWarII:::Some American plays the role of hero and emerges as the Second Coming of Christ for this final scene.
Who will it be? Italian? Look for at least the mother to be Italian, consistant with matrilineal descent, allowing the New Roman Empire to claim the Second Coming of Christ.
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When the gods hurt people who tell them "No." it can be interpreted as a good sign, much as feedback normally is. Sadly, as the threat can be considered a deterent to proper behavior then so can avoidance of the actual punishment be considered temptation.
The gods won't punish rejection from the innocent. People have to become corrupted and engage in evil before the gods will wield their justice. But this punishment is feedback levied upon good people who do the wrong thing, not upon the undesirable evil. People who think correctly and are genuinely god-fearing are more likely to envoke god's mercy.
Among "reals" I don't expect the percentage to be as high as those who crossed the line from person to preditor, despite those ranks being filled with these "undesirables". I think the gods may want most if not all to pay if and when they finally "come around" and begin to behave appropriately. Understand this is not all-inclusive, for many of these tools remain in this state of corruption until the day the gods adjudicate their case (death, reincarnation a lesser life form, etc).
Unfortunately, the god's policy further reinforces evil behavior, for they are rarely if ever punished for their wickedness. Good people on the other hand are punished BECAUSE they are wanted and the gods are giving them feedback in hope they canlearn and begin to behave decent. Expect these events are made very visible, serving as a FABULOUS corruptor.
Consistant with this policy of not punishing evil because they are undesirable, the Chinese will be inflicted with Westernization immediately, while the socio-economically mature Japanese have retained a significant level of their culture. As reflected in "Benchmarks.wav", this will contribute to deterioration sufficient for the gods to utilize justification, allowing them to end on Planet Earth.
Another benchmark could be the age when they corrupt children. Granted this differs, but the mean (and median) are VERY important numbers, and when you graph them you will see a constant deterioration.
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Recall I recently brought up the possible Manifest Destiny-positioned Chinese invasion of the United States (west coast) upon economic abandonment by their clone host tools (economic destruction and deterioration.mp3). They have mentioned this in years past.
Newspaper just made a curious change where they combined the sports and business sections, and to properly read the business section you need to read "backward". Like Asian languages.
Tariffs. The gods are instruct their tools to defend open free trade, as they will to the bitter end. The gods have a script and they need economic (d)evolution sufficient to justify what they have scripted for our future, so they use their tools to adamantly defend this concept of fair trade::::The time for tariffs has long since past.
Incidentally, the Chinese recalls (lead-based paint on toys, toothpaste, etc) may be in preparation for this invasion, a tactic esuring a percentage of disfavored affected will fight to the bitter end.
I've recently stated how the gods will use the Japanese as role models to the Chinese as China becomes increasingly Westernized. Expect a cultural movement celebrating Japanese culture in decades prior, much as we witnessed in the west in the past.
If we do witness a Chinese invasion on American soil don't be surprised if the very same tactics the Japanese employed on the Chinese will be used on us. Lack of empathy is a dynamic the gods will find important in the context of justification, niggers:::
Italians killed THOUSANDS of blacks in the 20th century. Port Chicago represents 200 alone.
When blacks adopt the charecteristics of their victimizers and turn it on others it illustrates a total lack of empathy, one which will be punished by death.
Don't be one of them.
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It doesn't matter. McCain doesn't have a chance. Osama's too good. The debates will be one-sided. He has a better chance against Hillary. I can get into the explanation that the gods only use their power to hurt the disfavored, but you've already heard it. Consistant with this, expect gas to climb to $4 if not $5 this summer, ensuring the election is delivered to the wrong candidate, just like 2004::::They've used the price of gas to punish the people for electing the wrong person.
IN 2000 you didn't have a choice, and they sent this clue very nicely with proceedings surrounding the election. But 2004 was different. In an ironic twist it will be just the opposite this year, where the gods use the price of gas to divert you TO their prefered candidate. Wwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
You idiot redneck political types are the chumps here. 1998::::Something for everybody. Clinton's impeachment was for people like you. ANYTIME the kids support a candidate it is a RED FLAG, and they supported Clinton in 1992.
It is VERY important that you think clearly::::::::It's important you differentiate between your thoughts and when the computer thinks through you. They've led many into Damnation with this tactic.
No red in McCain's official campaign sign. Both Clinton and Osama have redwhite&blue signs.
McCain's our man.
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"Some people think they're earning off illegal immigration." To be preditory at this level of knowledge will get them hurt. Bad::::Such as we witnessed in the 60s, for many of those participants knew the truth and understood this decade represented a MAJOR deterioration of society.
It's another of the god's Big Lies:::Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis, democracy, Christianity.
The social degredation since the 60s is a clue liberalism is a cancer designed to continue the destruction of the disfavored's quality of life.
There were a few issues which arose that were positives (don't need a man (sex hurts you), vegitarianism) but the French's "Age of Enlightenment" illustrates environmental appreciation is not new. In the aftermath of the counter-cultural social degredation the gods subsequently fractured this issue by creating damaging movements within the context of enviornmentalism.
Beware the promoters of indecency and/or obsenity. This is clue, a warning to the people.
"The Boot" has fucked you twice:::They ruined the quality of life of Planet Earth, ensuring your damnation because of your newly-inflicted indecency, and the god's role playing of the New Roman Empire's Manifest Destiny positioning has costed you the Final Prophet.
Hell's Angels is yet another element to emerge from Oakland, the upper incisor of TheBeast, designed for ripping and tearing flesh. One element that links TheDamned, no matter the skin color:::::Violence.
The gods want to play both sides of the coin.
It is very important the gods maintain this perception of "middle management", for if people knew management was just the gods and their computer they would become very frightened considering the carnage and what it says about their plans, and this fear would help them to think correctly.
They would be on the "fast-track" to salvation.
The gods created this environment of CEOs, kings and democracy specifically to defeat this and work very hard to maintain it.
People teetering on Damnation think god is evil and believe evil is the way. This is called "segmentation"::::They don't see the importance of temptation nor the god's role or methodology in punishment::::Ironically the gods DON'T punish evil for their wickedness. These people are not wanted and the gods don't want them to receive the feedback punishment would provide.
The homosexual AIDS event happened because of their behavior in the SanFranciscio bathhouses.
Italian claim to infamy is they destroyed life on earth. Irish claim is they prey on their own family members. Which one's worse? Just as the gods targetted certain Italians for the degredation of life in the 20th century so did the do the same for the Irish, as I know all too well.
Catholicism masculinized women. You have been warned:::CATHOLICS ARE BAD FOR YOU!!!
English Monarchy on ABC.
The best thing that could have happened for England would have been if the thrown wielded its power and violently struck down groups that got out of line, punks for example. It would have served as a wonderufl example to the others, and the net result from succeeding thrones behaving in this manner would be a higher ascention rate than what was realized.
This is what Saddam Hussein did. He dealt with "acceptable losses" and kept the peace. Disfavoreds who witnessed this behavior would become afraid, crucial to a good relationship with the gods.
And that's why they used the United States to eliminate this benefit to the disfavored. And no, as citizens of the United States you didn't "earn" off this event. Quite the opposite in fact.
"(Blah)." The gods created some ugly incidents to justify California's 1987 legislation outlawing corporal punishment, just as they forced poor matches to justify the elimination of matchmaking. And now instead of being matched at age 14 your daughter loses her virginity behind the bleachers at age 12.
The deterioration of quality of life has progressed into indecency, allowing the gods to soon justify ending on Planet Earth.
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I wonder how much the gods used the Green Bay geographic clue on the perpetually stupid Italians and used it to minimize abuses that otherwise would have ocurred?? "Sexual inadequecies of the men." positioning may have justified "going easy" on a larger population of germans in the United States. All we need to do is look to blacks, enemies of the Roman Empire who were fucked wholesale, to see unabated abuses.
The hypersexual laughing at superior life forms, ridiculing their favor.
Incidentally, they share some of them will remain "perpetually stupid". They are the Italians who crossed that line from person to preditor in the 30s, and they're going to be on Planet Earth come Judgement Day, except in a non-Italian body, due to the god's Manifest Destiny positioning of the New Roman Empire. Poetic justice.
If I were king they would be the Italians who were pushed into it, for those who thought 1906 was a good idea would already be gone::::You suck.wav.
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Churches and places of worship exist in every town FOR GOOD REASON::::THE GODS HAVE EXPECTATIONS!!! They DEMAND PROPER BEHAVIOR from the people. I recommend you examine this clue and give consideration to what expectations the gods have of the people.
I tell people to go back to church, even if the Catholic Church, because their children need that religious education.
They say some people are getting flashes, becoming concerned, beginning to give credibility to what I say. Do be surprised if these are people who experienced Bible study, went to CCD, had that religious education.
god-less people who never received this education laugh at me, typically will remain corrupted throughout their lives and are likely to end up The Damned.
Don't be a statistic.
Churches and places of worship exist in every town FOR GOOD REASON::::THE GODS HAVE EXPECTATIONS!!! They DEMAND PROPER BEHAVIOR from the people. I recommend you examine this clue and give consideration to what expectations the gods have of the people.
Literal translation of the Bible:::The gods have a sense of humor, and they love to give the "intelligencia" a hard time, leaving them dissallusioned and shamed when they learn the truth.
Because of their innocence, because of their purity children are god's favored people. What children learn (must be good if you want to go to heaven) is the truth. What you learned as children was the gods imparting wisdom to you, quite the opposite of what corrupt adults believe.
This is a tactic because many adults will continue to ridicule this idea, unable to believe the children would be graced with god's wisdom, especially while they are being told just the opposite and being corrupted into Damnation.
Much like the tactic of instilling "instant gratification" in society so was the discounting of children an effective tactic.
Consistant with this preference for innocence and purity, you don't want to continue reading. You want to learn JUST ENOUGH to understand you're corrupted, then you want to get out and do the work all for yourself and try to re-earn god's respect.
The gods used boss temptation on blacks, as seen in "my" choice of music when young, "my" choice of childhood heros and Hurricane. Due to their involvement the gods allowed them to learn from my teachings. In addition the gods offered a WEALTH of material on blacks, ammunition which didn't hurt this endeavor.
Latino incidents offer neither that wealth nor the involvement in the Situation.
"Nothing is free my friend." The gods don't allow icing for the morbidly disfavored:::Whatever the tactic, however it is achieved they will not tolerate Latinos learning from the Final Prophet because they didn't pay for it. Black people paid for it.
If this is true and it occurs expect the gods to tell Latino segments without hope that this is the element which will ensure salvation for all. The rest of them will think being Catholic will be the element which will save them. Ironic, especially considering how many have slipped into godlessness.
Just like Malcolm X & the Black Panthers, the Che Guevara event happened to prey upon Latinos.
Among others.
Look at it as if it is a ladder, for this is a sufficient analogy::
On the lowest rung is the corrupt souls who find violence acceptable (ALL MALES:::black, latino, Hells Angels, etc). A few rungs up the ladder are all the people who will be saved in the year of the Apocalypse (not all will be saved on the actual Judgement Day).
Every rung above this point represents people on planets other than Earth.
You people don’t even think right. If you don’t make these corrections you will die. They don’t want you, they lie to you to compell you to think/desire violence and they consider it temptation/not accepting blame, ensuring no culpability.
Read on. You need to read what I say, for understanding is your only hope. And if you know any “cholos” you should pass this on to them if you care anything for them.
You need to start THINKING about this instead of blindly trusting what they tell you:::The gods lie FREELY, call it “temptation”.
ZERO domesticable species for North America:::It's god telling you to "EAT DIRT!!"
Don't forget:::Europe is shaped like a sheep, symbolic for slaughter.
There is great unrespectability among the Europeans. The concept of "savior" within Christianity is likley just a symptom.
The gods place GREAT importance in maintaining their scapegoatting tactic of "middle management". Without it people would become GENUINLY afraid and often would envoke god's mercy, making progress in the process.
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There is a issue with timing and the beginning of construction of disfavored redwhite&blue's center, one where this company looks bad.
I personally believe the favored redwhite&blue is the element of favor necessary for my failure, for if it were just the disfavored redwhite&blue involved the gods would have let them fry and we would have had a full-blown prophet event, one where our “absentee Christian god” emerged and revealed themselves.
In addition favored redwhite&blue had to maintain appearances. Disfavored redwhite&blue is Italian and was VERY involved in the 20th century's ugliness.
My life was destroyed becuase the gods had to create unrespecability in the context of positioning. Evident by their easily-discovered evil, disfavored redwhite&blue wouldn't have cared if I was respectable or not, for they were involved in great evil against the respectable.
Favored redwhite&blue is why I am fat. Favored redwhite&blue is why I was sedintary, for if I were respectable the gods wouldn't have been able to position favored redwhite&blue into the Situation. This is one reason why they got that prior knowledge and constructed their center before the Situaiton began::::Favored redwhite&blue is the TRUE Enforcer.
Incidentally, in the course of this Situation the gods made many movies, using daily events in my life as inspiration. One of note:::Unhappy about the god's behavior in the context of this event, while in favored redwhite&blue's facility I looked at their mascot and flippantly declared::::"Why don't you make a movie about these things?" Two years later ____ came out.
They won't admit this because favored redwhite&blue has to maintain their reputation based on integrity, any creative claims countering this truth were attemtpts to protect this, for this movie was unseemly and was very telling about the direction the gods were taking the people.
And, as an added bonus they had their scapegoat without actually compensating him!!! Welcome to the pathology of the gods.
In case you are still interested in the god's Planet Earth theater, favored redwhite&blue is a MAJOR player, and their favor is significant to justify not only the destruction of my life but the destruction of the Final Prophet and Planet Earth as well::::
Favored redwhite&blue is the true enemy of the people. I suspect consistant with this they are positioned responsible for the environmental deterioration that the repression of alternate technologies has wrought.
The gods put their positioning into place and then enforce it:::Christianity, Manifest Destiny, Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis, 1906's New Roman Empire. I suspect World War II's Nazi ideals of "Aryan superrace" is another example of the gods getting their tools into place for the theater that will be the Apocalypse.
Because of their status as enemies of the New Roman Empire the germans are going to be positioned as the destructors, similar to how they were portrayed in World War II.
Don’t be surprised if favored redwhite&blue turns out to be the Anti-Christ and leads the Fourth Reich, fulfilling this positioning and proving to the world the destructive nature of this economic system. This may not be exactly how their script reads, but the god's have a BIG SURPRISE like this to spring on the disfavored::::::Expect they will fulfill some contrived positioning foreshadowed in WorldWarII:::Some American plays the role of hero and emerges as the Second Coming of Christ for this final scene.
Who will it be? Italian? Look for at least the mother to be Italian, consistant with matrilineal descent, allowing the New Roman Empire to claim the Second Coming of Christ.
The god's computer conducts this theater. In err you do what they tell you. So does president, CEO/BOD, Italian gangsters. Sadly the gods will turn around and use this as a corruptor:::"CEO does everything he's told and he has BILLIONS!!!"
If one of these clone host tools "comes around", realizes they made a mistake and finally musters the courage to tell the gods "No." they will get that person out and put in somebody who will tell them "Yes.". The individual who told them "No." has successfully navigated temptation. Unfortunately, punishment can be a temptation via deterrent, and the gods may choose to employ this tactic to test the candidate in their next placement.
They corrupted Italians with 1906 then told these Italians it was the godfather ordering them to plan WWII, kill blacks, cvorrupt and destroy society. Now people know better (opening the door to other types of corruption), but these Italians experienced an "early cut-off" and got their hands very dirty because of it, illustrating their grave disfavor.
Before WorldWarII began the gods sold many people on clone hosting, not just Italians. This would represent a "cut-off" for the non-Italians sold on "earning" and initiated into clone hosting, for clone hosting gives the gods the freedom to place at their discretion. Many non-Italians were placed into these Italian bodies to continue the destruction of society in the 20th century, for the gods couldn't justify their involvement within the context of Manifest Destiny positioning otrherwise, Manifest Destiny being the New Roman Empire.
There is a big difference when clone hosts are evil, people who are placed into bodies by god, and when real people engage in evil. Of course the gods can minimize this culpability they accept by gaining consent prior to placement.
THE GODS ARE ASEXUAL. THEY HAVE NO SEX ORGANS NOR RECTUM.
WHEN THEY TAKE CHILDREN THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME "GOD-LIKE", for ASEXUALITY IS SUPERIOR. This is the optimal ascention senario and represents the highest life form possible.
2.wav::::Immortality. The very first sound file AND the point where my audience should have extracted from this theater.
No man has the ability to listen to your thoughts or speak to you. Only their technology has that ability.
The computer IS god. The gods are the inventors, so many trillions of years ago.
The gods get their clone host tools into place and tell them what to do, just like all you, in err. But these are not real people and their mistakes don't matter as much. They're not staying for long anyways.
Clone hosts aren't even real people. They abandoned their bodies, losing their identity in the process, a consequence of succumbing to this temptation.
They're just entities, brains "floating" around out there until the gods chose to place them into a body. They are sub-human, second-class citizens, inferior individuals, and should be beneath ALL reals.
There is a difference between these clone hosts, so many of which abandoned their bodies in the 30s out of desperation (women) or thinking they were "earning" (men), and when the gods take liberties upon the disfavored, not placing a brain in a child until later for stategic purpose. This served as an intense corruptor for those disfavored people. The frequency is higher among the most disfavored among us (Italian, Irish, black, Latino, etc) than people that are not nearly as disfavored.
Think of it in terms of the Black War I::::The gods developed these bodies without brains specifically because they had preditory Italian trash from the mid 20th century whom they wanted to employ poetic justice upon. Becasuse of the indecency of the blacks involved the gods felt taking the liberty was justified. The result was the child that never was.
Don't let them role play this Manifest Destiny theater to you anymore. Just as the Italians who planned WorldWarII thought they were telepathically taking orders from the "godfather", so do the CEOs, kings/presidents and society's elite do as their told and "take orders".
Artificial Intelligence orchestrates this entire environment.
I personally believe the gods should not be utilize clone hosting. I think they should employ temptation exclusively. Example:::::When people incurr sufficient evil, typically males in their early 20s, they die. There would be young men dropping dead everywhere. In addition this could serve as an effective clue to the others, reminding them to be good.
AIDS changed Africa. We will never see AIDS among blacks in the United States because of it.
We'll never see this. The gods would never allow such an obvious clue to be sent. WHEN the gods DID employ this tactic expect they beemed the brain OUT, kind of a "reverse clone hosting". A clue may be when a normally "active" individual falls into a quiet pattern.
How often do they use this as opposed to "variability", ie clone hosting someone good in the body to justify??? "There's a lot of Italians who are no longer with us." That often.
The gods computer conducts this theater. In err you all do what they tell you. So does president, CEO/BOD, Italian gangsters.
They corrupted Italians with 1906 then told these Italians it was the godfather ordering them to plan WWII, kill blacks, cvorrupt and destroy society. Now people know better (opening the door to other types of corruption), but these Italians experienced an "early cut-off" and got their hands very dirty because of it, illustrating their grave disfavor.
Before WorldWarII began the gods sold many people on clone hosting, not just Italians. This would represent a "cut-off" for the non-Italians sold on "earning" and initiated into clone hosting, for now the gods had the freedom to place at their discretion. Many non-Italians were placed into these Italian bodies to continue the destruction of society in the 20th century, for the gods couldn't justify their involvement within the context of Manifest Destiny positioning otrherwise.
The Spainish were Catholic like the Italians and Irish yet I don't recall them experiencing the same clues from the gods, clues warning people of their gross disfavor (stereotypes and discrimination).
Due to Spain's phenominal destruction in Latin America with conquistadors and missionary work I wonder if the gods continually use this to corrupt the Spanish to this day? They certainly do with Latinos.
Spain did pay for Columbus, right? Expect a connection. This is a Church issue rather than an Italian issue of course.
The gods employ their "middle management" tactic, as we all witness. Expect their positioning to continue into the past::::
I've mentioned before the "seamless" transistion between Cleopatra and Julius Ceasar. Perhaps they position this as if there was contact with Pharroh and they gave management duties to Egypt, who went on to use Italy, the Catholic Church, etc. in the course of their management.
Of course none of this is true, but it was utilized extensively during the 20th century. They may continue witrh this scapegoatting, "middle management" positioning::::Milky Way quadrant, Milky Way, universal quadrant, universal. They are effective tactics, ensuring people do not become god-fearing.
Sadly, consistant with the deterioration of society, necessary for justification, today people KNOW the gods run the show, and illustrating the evil they employ on the disfavored corrupts people very badly. They think god is evil, and they behave consistant with that belief. Now we have a planet on a collision course with the Apocalypse, and the gods set it all up perfectly that now it is justified.
Inflation is artificial. The gods control pricing and valuation of securities::::Much as we witness with the crash of the dollar so could we witness this behavior within other dynamics of the economy, paving the way for justification.
The economic abandonment by their clone host tools is a very real possibility. The gods can easily "reassign" them, placing them into the economy which they played a part in destroying, ironically.
Consistant with their methodology the gods will bring it all to a head simultaneously. We very well may witness this possible Chinese invasion in the aftermath.
"There's "four digits" (placement's age) involved in this thing." High 1000s, ie Roman?
THE GODS ARE ASEXUAL. THEY HAVE NO SEX ORGANS NOR RECTUM.
WHEN THEY TAKE CHILDREN THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME "GOD-LIKE", for ASEXUALITY IS SUPERIOR. This is the optimal ascention senario and represents the highest life form possible.
2.wav::::Immortality. The very first sound file AND the point where my audience should have extracted from this theater.
No man has the ability to listen to your thoughts or speak to you. Only their technology has that ability.
The computer IS god. The gods are the inventors, so many trillions of years ago. And the computer manages us all.
Literal translation of the Bible:::The gods have a sense of humor, and they love to give the "intelligencia" a hard time, leaving them dissallusioned and shamed when they learn the truth.
The gods use their tools to attack the Southern man, be it alcohol, the celebration of smoking, the complete devotion to guns and resistance, and their adoration of speed and horsepower. "There's all kinds of stuff." Paternalistic superiority. Celebration of the Prohibition era/illegal bootlegging as culture. The masculinization of women. Celebration of "Stars and Bars". Their perpetual music genre. Carnivoristic preferences. The celebration of infidelity. Their head-strong nature.
The gods used the 1980s televangelist incidents to promote godlessness among these people, a blow they couldn't afford to take.
Reality check:::The gods have it out for you. At least I hope this breaks that ice and helps you understand the task before you. You should be very alarmed that the gods have chose to employ such extensive use of temptation in an otherwise rural region.
I suspect your numbers won't be good due to your grave disfavor.
The more god-fearing you are, the more religious you are about attending service, the more modest and humble and the recognition that women are your superior will all go a LONG WAY towards the gods finding mercy enough to allow help.
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The god's intent with Horrible::::They'll being me back in the Preditor clone host for the MarijuanaErradicationProgram "gone awry", ironically putting the disfavored's 20th century enemies in black and Latino clone hosts for this genocide event.
Glock is Austrian. The gods already used the Austrians for black genocide once.
You need to understand the subtle, inferred way the gods communicate to people and begin to trust it::::::
The tiger killed the Latino. Now you understand where the gods hold Latinos in their heirarchy.
And expect both Muslims AND Hindus to be ranked above the unrespectable Catholics, incidentally.
Is this a clue to try to help them understand the gods hold them in such low regard? Is this a clue to Latinos to NOT fall into the same mindset which they sold to blacks? Of course ignorant blacks think they're great. Quite the opposite it true:::The Black Panthers are part of that "upper incisor of The Beast" clue, designed for ripping and tearing flesh.
Don't be surprised if they are offering foreshadowing with this event. They may be sharing that Latinos will be very poorly represented while Hindus/Indian Muslims will take a painful hit.
Perhaps it means if Latinos don't ascend before the Apocalypse they won't be going.
I made the zoo a winter wonderland. I'd trust the relevance here.
They parked Wilma on top of the southwest part of Cozumel FOR TWO FULL DAYS for the same reason, but with far more destructive results.
If god tells you to stop going to church you should be very afraid. This means you have fallen into great disfavor and you are no longer welcome.
Keep going to church. Children need the moral compass this education gives them.
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Like other groups the gods have offered temptations the Chinese must avoid. There are specific temptations targetted to the Chinese, very concerning in light of god's Manifest Destiny positioning:::Exploiting the corporate establishment allows the gods to position exclusion:::
1. Piracy (movies, software, etc).
2. Gambling, very popular among Asians (unrespectability).
3.
Chinese censorship is an important benefit the gods bestowed. The communisit government protects the people from damaging media, so destructive in the West and particularly the United States:::Our 9-year-old children are free to view internet pornography, allowing the gods to justify creating disturbing pathologies with Artificial Intelligence as the children age.
These strict enviornments help the disfavored think correctly, foster fear, enabling them to have an improved relationship with the gods, the "kings with the iron fist" in the sky.
In an environment like theirs it is relatively easy to identify the corruptors among them:::Knowingly or not they actively lobby against this environment which seeks to preserve the China of old. Use these clues as you would the god's geographic clues, Italy's Boot and the Scandanavian penis, and avoid the god's tools of corruption.
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The gods want to play both sides of the coin.
It is very important the gods maintain this perception of "middle management", for if people knew management was just the gods and their computer they would become very frightened, and this fear would help them to think correctly.
They would be on the "fast-track" to salvation.
The gods created this environment specifically to defeat this and work very hard to maintain it.
People without hope think god is evil and believe evil is the way. This is called "segmentation". They don't see the importantce of temptation nor the god's role or methodology in punishment::::Ironically the gods DON'T punish evil for their wickedness because they are not wanted and don't want them to receive the feedback punishment would provide.
I hope people in Enterprise, Alabama have become "god-fearing", experiencing the wrath of god firsthand. Sadly, the gods will use tactics to ensure they don't become god-fearing, telling many of them that because the tornado was because of me they "earned" and now I have to "bring them up".
The gods lie freely. They will say anthing in the context of temptation. If people in Enterprise understood this they would be more likely to overcome this temptation and become god-fearing. Sadly most believe what they are told and this precious opportunity will pass without effect.
Temptation is very important. "Heaven" is an exclusive place and you can't get in for free.
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This entire event was something special, and consistant with segmentation they lied to different disfavored based on their chances :::Saved or The Damned.
To The Damned I am an enemy of the Roman Empire, someone to be destroyed and used, and if the disfavored found that acceptable it worsened their lot, costed them hope and was a clue any recovery would be a very tough road to hoe.
The saved saw other clues, boss, natural calamities, and it gave rise to me as a possible historical figure. The gods offered clues that neither "savior" nor "new king of Earth" was possible, for Christianity positioning is going to be fulfilled and Earth has to die.
I don't think we were ever talking about Second Coming of Christ in public circles, for this would have implied The End and that would have compelled people to freak. But in the context of private positioning, perhaps to clone hosts in The Beast, certainly to me, there may have been some connection::::
Jesus of course was Jew, and they positioned this was a competition, reasoning "Since the Jews got Jesus they get this too.", and that's why I was hired by the Jew. Expect this was a way to enhance the theater among the disfavored.
So positioning states by delivering me to these New Roman Empire monsters they knew I'd get fucked, and in the process forfeit this historical role, to the Jews, perhaps an Italian, for Italians granted "charity wealth" to Jews for planning/implimenting WWII and the Holocaust.
In light of this "New Roman Empire", since Christianity's HQ is in Rome expect the Italians played some part in this historical, religious context.
They suggested this event may already may have happened. If so this was the FAKE battle of good and evil, FAKE battle between the Second Coming of Christ and the Anti-Christ. They suggest the phoniness about it which was communicated to the disfavored telepathically was a clue. Ironically, this Situation is the REAL battle of good and evil, me vs. the gods.
When the REAL battle of the Second Coming of Christ and Anti-Christ occurrs it will be theater, a staged event, and the Second Coming of Christ will "lead out" a pre-selected group, all of whom sign on to the god's Christianity positioning, ironically incurring evil by participating and limiting their time in the process.
Italians:::"(We're all that. We deserve Second Coming.)" And they're going to get it.
The Boot will fuck you yet again::::People know Jesus isn't the son of god, yet this is what the Bible dictates as requirement to be saved.
Those whom the Second Coming will "lead out" will be a pre-selected group. But the "hangers on", people who think they will be included by claiming to be believers will be disappointed. They will be mislead, left behind, The Boot's final victims on Planet Earth.
This is unimportant, irrelevant, because much like the creation of the perception of "savior" around Jesus to distract from his original purpose the gods used their tools to create this theater around me to prevent the disfavored from learning what I teach:::The Boot has fucked the disfavored twice, once when they ruined life in the 20th century, again when they were used to CHEAT you out of the Final Prophet.
The gods use their tools to impliment their script then punish them for falling for temptation. Welcome to the pathology of the gods.
Of couse when the gods hurt the disfavored there is "help" associated with the "back-hand", and using their tools to ruin my credibility ensured people wouldn’t be receptive and the gods wouldn't have to position a Manifest Destiny response. This allows the gods to string the disfavored along for years as well.
I believe they wanted to wait until 2006, when this thing really got going and the gods opened up to me, to contrast it with the 1906 event.
Of course without their technology the gods are just wicked bastard wannabees, for they can't conceive positioning this complex and brilliant. Nor execute it.
Without this technology that is god they are nothing.
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"They don't live here anymore." Better not have thrown the bodies away when you got the last brain residents out. I'm going to want them. And the brains that resided therein, too.
They shared PIC was a big believer in bio-technology. They've mentioned before that they spend millions on their products, assumably to distribute them to employees who are pushed into crossing the clients. This is a good example of the total lack of empathy of Italians. "We told you we put real monsters around you." You suck.wav:::They should no longer be alive.
"They buried the expenses." Well they're not going to be listed as expenses on income statements. Be aware it could be buried within the context of their gangster ownership group.
PIC is a good example proving they use me as a "savior" corruptor::::
"Savior" corruptor can take many forms. I can be like a Jesus savior, where I give access and they fix their problems, or I can be a sacrificial savior, attacked because my purpose counters the god's efforts. Considering how so many think it is about attention expect they used both based on what segment the disfavored fall within (saved ("attention" says good savior) or The Damned (prey on me, ruin the Final Prophet and "earn".)).
PIC likley used these products on too many people (before the boss era's GREAT attention, likely), among other evils, and wasn't going because of it. The gods used this to create the perception of savior, for PIC wasn't going to ascend unless he preyed on me and played a part in destroying the Final Prophet:::The Boot fucks you twice.
Due to PIC's ethnicity their evil should be relatively easy to discover, unlike the non-Italians placed in this Situation.
Bio-technology is a good example of how the god's offensives fuck everyone involved::::The proprietor dishing out the bio-technology product to the employee, the receiver who's health is destroyed, the bio-technology employees who create the evil and the investors who capitalize off the phenominal returns. Because retirement plans are able to bury their many losers, many contrived to force the issue upon pension plans, these investments became very popular. Similarly, earlier in the 20th century the gods tested proprietors by creating problems where a bio-technology product's response was a legitimate temptation.
People get confused because the gods have successfully buried this Italian Manifest Destiny positioning, sadly with my help. Now people think that era is over. In many cases they understand they're addressing the trillions-years-old computer, yet discount the god's positioning of Manifest Destiny.
Chinese piracy of movies and software ocurrs to justify their disposal come Judgement Day. This can be taken as a clue proving Manifest Destiny positioning. There are lots of examples like this throughout the world.
Just like Sigmund Freud's psychoananlysis, just like Christianity, Manifest Destiny is positioning that the gods intend to enforce. As a result the gods are able to hide behind this positioning and maintain the lie that is the "absentee Christian god" when it is them in fact doing it to you with their (clone host) tools in place.
They share that people don't believe this, people don't give it credibility now.
The bio-technology product AIDS was given to both those who died and survivors. The gods not only control who is affected but they can also can create it without that justification that is the actual bio-technology product, but as I said the god's offensives fuck everyone involved and this is a good example, for clients, employees, recipients and investors all will be punished for their evil.
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There have been many changes in India over the last 20+ years, most surrounding Westenization.
Too many still don't understand Westernization is a bad thing, a way the gods abuse the disfavored and level the playing field for all, ensuring their script is justified.
My advice is to keep fresh in your memory the old ways, for the gods illustrate that "new is evil" while "old is good".
Beware their corruptors. They placed them throughout society as America emerged and became strong. Don't let them weaken your moral fortitude. The gods placed them then use Artificial Intelligence to telepathically reinforce this corruption. This is their purpose. If you can identify these individuals you can avoid them and protect yourself from a corrupting environment.
Earth is where the gods test people. People from India are lucky enough to have received "extra time" to ascend before the gods employed all these corrupting elements. This means the old ways are still fresh in your mind. Never forget them because they can help you.
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They share Hindus (and Muslim from India as well) are being corrupted by money.
Don't forget my example::::Infanticide justifies Chinese Westernization. Chinese Westernization justifies an American-style "short memory span".
The Chinese and Asians knew who their enemy was. Thousands of years of warmongering engrained the Japanese as enemies of peace-loving people. However, with the advent of Westernization the gods now are corrupting the Asians, ironically using the Japanese as role models in the process.
They are becoming corrupted. They've suggested Indians are being corrupted with money in this new era. The result will be simmilar American-style abuses upon the disfavored.
Between the two countries they make up half of Earth’s population. The gods are preparing for a full-blown Apocalypse event.
Think about the changes that have ocurred in India in the last 20 years. Better understanding the destructive changes the gods implimented can help you avoid danger.
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