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the sport? I suggest ya'...David Poole actually help the sport? I suggest ya'll go look at his pics from when he first started. Seems Nascar isn't the only one thats gotten bigger based on controversyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-71547085871855322282008-02-23T12:24:00.000-05:002008-02-23T12:24:00.000-05:00D.P. asked what was Stewart snaction for if not fo...D.P. asked what was Stewart snaction for if not for what happened in the trailer. How about PUNTING Busch into the wall during practice- the replays shows he didn't just misjudge his speed. Damn the penalties-I'd have returned the favor too- Hey NASCAR- for situations like this why not just let em slug it out--Stewart proves it just like WWE anyway-only he used his car rather than a chair from ringsideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-52254416640963411172008-02-20T11:36:00.000-05:002008-02-20T11:36:00.000-05:00Marc, first of all you're not qualified to comment...Marc, first of all you're not qualified to comment about anyone's business sense when you obviously are ignorant of the fact that revenue sharing in pro sports <EM>always</EM> works, and for good measure spending caps always work as well. The "losers" in MLB aren't the same anymore, and the World Series has seen six different winners in the last seven runnings since the end of the Yankees dynasty. <BR/><BR/>Second of all you're not qualified to comment, period, when you throw in shots about drug testing and the Ray Evernham/Eric Crocker fiasco in response to a general post about NASCAR intervening in areas it has no business in and then act all disingenuous about it with shots about straw men. "I asked a question." No, you went off on a tangent. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous #96 makes excellent points about NASCAR's present purse and contingency award structures and how they constitute a form of revenue sharing. My point is the concept needs to be extended directly to race teams sharing revenue with each other. It works everywhere else and NASCAR's lack of a direct inter-team revenue sharing policy is not in the sport's best interest.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-36261960799877116752008-02-19T18:28:00.000-05:002008-02-19T18:28:00.000-05:00The media call out NASCAR on the carpet? I think n...The media call out NASCAR on the carpet? I think not. After all, that's what buys your food (see inset picture of DP). NASCAR trying for parity? If they did it would jeopardize their bedtime activities with Chevrolet. NASCAR is not about fair, it's about selling tickets and making money. Putting butts in the seats to make the France family wallet greener is the ultimate goal. Always has been; always will be.excuzzzemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18411539201819767672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-35947637023433212592008-02-18T19:53:00.000-05:002008-02-18T19:53:00.000-05:00I think the reason Tony got sentenced to probation...I think the reason Tony got sentenced to probation was he for lack of better words " whooped Kurt`s ass" in the Nascar Hauler. Good for you Tony and good for you David. Somebody finally stood up and said enough is enough. Put Stewart and Busch in a ring out at LMS during Allstar Weekend and let`s have a good old fashion Loser leave Town Match. Sounds good to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-34117224275649564402008-02-18T17:39:00.000-05:002008-02-18T17:39:00.000-05:00Hey ya'll, Does Tony Stewart look like Al Capone o...Hey ya'll, Does Tony Stewart look like Al Capone or is it just me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-64218878314753431232008-02-17T06:53:00.000-05:002008-02-17T06:53:00.000-05:00seems to me the "punishment" was handed down by th...seems to me the "punishment" was handed down by the only one that should have...TONY...look at Kurt eyeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-57741347439893259072008-02-15T21:54:00.000-05:002008-02-15T21:54:00.000-05:00we all know of Tony's claustrophbia and total disd...we all know of Tony's claustrophbia and total disdain for the media and the sanctioning body of the sport in which he competes i just hopes he gets the psychiatric help he needs before he punks the wrong driver and gets called on it. maybe someone will give jimmy Spencer a ride at Bristol and let him deal with Stewart. I'd love to see someone kick he's butt hard enough for him to wear it as a collarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-81606154296222106422008-02-15T09:53:00.000-05:002008-02-15T09:53:00.000-05:00Is there proof in the pudding to post # 96t? You ...Is there proof in the pudding to post # 96t? You bet! Out of curiosity I searched Google for Tony and Kurt. Take a look at the some of the hits proving the publicity point:<BR/><BR/>Sports Illustrated:<BR/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/racing/wires/<BR/>02/12/3010.ap.car.nascar.daytona.500.3rd.ld.<BR/>writethru.0693/<BR/><BR/>Tribune Chronicle in OH:<BR/>http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/page/content.<BR/>detail/id/501527.html?nav=5024<BR/><BR/>Las Vegas Review Journal:<BR/>http://www.lvrj.com/sports/15661537.html<BR/><BR/>MN Star Tribune:<BR/>http://www.startribune.com/sports/motorsports/<BR/>15644807.html<BR/><BR/>Baltimore Sun:<BR/>http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/motorracing/<BR/>bal-sp.ordine13feb13,0,4449859.column<BR/><BR/>Indianapolis Star:<BR/>http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/<BR/>SPORTS0109/802130446/1052/SPORTS01<BR/><BR/>Kansas City Star:<BR/>http://www.kansascity.com/<BR/>sports/motorsports/story/487542.html<BR/><BR/>SportingNews (NASCAR Wire Service):<BR/>http://www.sportingnews.com/<BR/>yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=351032<BR/><BR/>More Google Hits -<BR/>http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=<BR/>UTF-8&resnum=1&ct=title&ncl=1129993078Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-14110014433407516002008-02-15T09:10:00.000-05:002008-02-15T09:10:00.000-05:00Regarding the "revenue sharing" discussion, techni...Regarding the "revenue sharing" discussion, technically it is already in place. The division is complicated, to say the least.<BR/><BR/>The distribution of NASCAR money includes numerous factors in the overall equation, with the bonus programs and sponsor programs factoring large in that equation, The equation goes like this:<BR/>Race Purse | TV money | Car Owner Special Award Programs | Winners Circle Award Program | Leader Bonus | Manufacturer Award Prizes | and more. <BR/><BR/>The purse includes several factors divided between <BR/>the field of 43, where a sliding scale to divide the purse is used based on finishing order. TV award money is also paid and figured the same way. There are special owner plans that car owners are allowed to be a part of which also pay out.<BR/><BR/>Of course, there is the award for leading a lap, and numerous other incentives for car owners, drivers and teams.<BR/><BR/>Most often, the money is paid after each event. Yet, approx. 20 million in pro-rated share money is distributed at the end of the season from the Manufacturers Point Fund.<BR/><BR/>Back to the TV money. TV money increases the track purse at each event. About four years ago <BR/>the TV money equation broke out to: 65 percent = promoters, 25 percent = purse and 10 percent = NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>So, technically there is already revenue sharing in place, and there has been for a long, long, time!<BR/>You might read the NY Times article from 1999 that details how it all got started: "How Nascar's Power Figure Keeps Everybody Happy"<BR/>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=<BR/>9E0CEFDA1231F933A15753C1A96F958260&sec=<BR/>&spon=&pagewanted=all<BR/><BR/>Now, is the money in the Cup series comparable to the NFL, MLB, PGA, etc? That opens a new can of worms. Does the revenue sharing % need to increase, well that is what most team owners will argue. But, then there is the argument from the NASCAR side. You can bet your bottom dollar that NASCAR will use the decline in last years TV ratings as part of their argument.<BR/><BR/>As a fan, you are also helping with the "revenue sharing." If you watch the broadcast, and ratings go up, then revenue sharing goes up across the board.<BR/><BR/>So, when David posts an article about NASCAR lying to the fans, etc. I find it a low priority, when you educate yourself about the money equation! Why?<BR/>TV ratings were up for the Budweiser Shootout, and the reasons are as varied as the drivers in the sport. I will be interested to see what the ratings are for the Duel's with Dale, Jr. winning out of the box for Hendrick and the publicity the media gave to Tony and Kurt. If either one of those reasons made you watch then everybody is happy if ratings are up.<BR/>More ratings, more money. So, David Poole's blog could be a factor in the revenue sharing equation. NASCAR, the owners, drivers, teams, and sponsors love it when that happens!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-10711215418732460692008-02-15T01:32:00.000-05:002008-02-15T01:32:00.000-05:00monkeesfan - "Their spending is ultimately the pro...monkeesfan - <I>"Their spending is ultimately the problem, and what is amazing is that no one in their ranks has stood up and asked if it might be a good idea for the team owners to get togther and share revenue with each other."</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe because they have more business sense than you'll ever have.<BR/><BR/>Yeah that's the answer! Revenue sharing, it worked so well in MLB!<BR/><BR/>Oh wait... it hasn't the losers are still the losers despite the Tax placed on the rich teams to be given to the poor ones.<BR/><BR/><I>"Marc, second of all you respond to my comment about NASCAR dictating into areas it has no business dictating and squelching stories that portray the sport in a negative light by correlating drug testing policy and Erin Crocker's seedy relationship with Ray Evernham into the discussion, as if those were areas I was referring to.</I><BR/><BR/>Um no. I asked a question. Thats it. Quit stuffing that strawman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-26948988622190937122008-02-15T00:15:00.000-05:002008-02-15T00:15:00.000-05:00Paul Bowen, to this independent commissioner you w...Paul Bowen, to this independent commissioner you want to hire, some questions like the following should be asked -<BR/><BR/><EM>What is more important - fielding the best competitive product, or more aggressive marketing of the brand?<BR/><BR/>What is better for the competitive product - a dominating driver, or the highest number of different winning drivers and teams possible?<BR/><BR/>What plan do you have for inter-team revenue sharing?<BR/><BR/>Will your policy on multicar teams entail forcing the disbanding of elements of multicar teams?</EM>Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-10296098394771253552008-02-15T00:05:00.000-05:002008-02-15T00:05:00.000-05:00Anonymous #85 - I lived through the Earnhardt era ...Anonymous #85 - I lived through the Earnhardt era and there has never been any evidence that Earnhardt ever stood up to NASCAR or spoke for the drivers or won any policy battle with NASCAR. I never heard him say anything particularly truthful or serious about any major issue.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-35187908257101926602008-02-14T23:58:00.000-05:002008-02-14T23:58:00.000-05:00Marc, first of all I read that story about team ow...Marc, first of all I read that story about team owners blaming the economy and it's disingenuous because they're just <EM>(pun warning)</EM> passing the buck. Their spending is ultimately the problem, and what is amazing is that no one in their ranks has stood up and asked if it might be a good idea for the team owners to get togther and share revenue with each other. It's even more amazing that no one in the sanctioning body has put this forward as an idea. Instead we just get regurgitation of the independent contractor charade that's been going on for years. Come off it, guys, stop blaming the economy and start facing your own foolishness; get together and hammer out revenue sharing with each other.<BR/><BR/>Marc, second of all you respond to my comment about NASCAR dictating into areas it has no business dictating and squelching stories that portray the sport in a negative light by correlating drug testing policy and Erin Crocker's seedy relationship with Ray Evernham into the discussion, as if those were areas I was referring to.<BR/><BR/>I was referring to car specs, rules, and general policies. NASCAR has not allowed any out-of-the-box views on any issue to be circulated, either in the garage area or in their press. I'm hard-pressed to remember any kind of serious dissenting voice on any serious issue come from the NASCAR press.<BR/><BR/>How you drew a conclusion about drug testing and Erin Crocker's affair with Ray Evernham out of that comment I have no idea.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-45895802553744218232008-02-14T22:36:00.000-05:002008-02-14T22:36:00.000-05:00paulbowen - "I don't believe anyone's asking to se...paulbowen - <I>"I don't believe anyone's asking to see things that are personal in nature. But if someone is suspended for drugs then that should be made public, as in other sports."</I><BR/><BR/>Really? Then you have spent so little time reading the thread and missed a very pointed arguement that said just that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-52796350520496704472008-02-14T19:06:00.000-05:002008-02-14T19:06:00.000-05:00Mr.Poole,I've written to you before and 99% of the...Mr.Poole,I've written to you before and 99% of the time I have DISAGREED with your opnions!!! This time you were RIGHT ON I was watching the live show Sat. and about fell on the floor when YOU said they should kick SISSY BOY BUSCH out for the rest of the weekend.Evey announcer I heard talk about this said the on track event was just a "racin deal" What Bush did in the pits was not!!!! I think he was real smart ( as he did in the Jimmy Spencer episode a few years back) to stay in his car and get to the pits asap because Tony was trying to get out of his car and give him what he deserved A good ass kicking!!!Tony is one of the few REAL race drivers left he was racing sprint cars on dirt while Kurt Boy was bagging groceries at some foodmart.I think maybe his carowner might have had something to do with the so called "punishment" if this had been one of the unfavored ones lets say a Robbie Gordon instead of Bush I certain the punishment would have been very differentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-55545319110442068692008-02-14T12:25:00.001-05:002008-02-14T12:25:00.001-05:00So many NASCAR haters. Or thoughts of FIXED outco...So many NASCAR haters. Or thoughts of FIXED outcomes. I used to work in the sport, I do not like where its going, but its NOT Fixed! We spent millions of dollars behind the scene to gain a competitive edge. If you do not like the sport, why comment on it? oh, its a place for people to complain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-312804650088317672008-02-14T12:25:00.000-05:002008-02-14T12:25:00.000-05:00So, you mean to say you support NASCAR telling the...So, you mean to say you support NASCAR telling the world what and how much drugs someone has used when caught?<BR/><BR/>This despite the fact it's private info between NASCAR, the testing facility and the miscreant. As such anyone willfully releasing the info is subject to visiting his/her lawyer.<BR/><BR/>Same goes for the Tim Richmond thing<BR/><BR/>Guess you also support the airing of Crocker/Evernham dirty laundry in public.<BR/><BR/>Something that the public at large has no business knowing.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe anyone's asking to see things that are personal in nature. But if someone is suspended for drugs then that should be made public, as in other sports.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR is ridiculously pathetic in it's approach to the media. If you act like you have something to hide, we WILL all assume that you are hiding something. <BR/><BR/>Frances: Hire an independent commissioner to run the sport and get the nepotism out. It's time to grow up and make NASCAR a professionally run sport.<BR/><BR/>Marc, thanks for slamming the stupid racial comments. That I agree with you on, no place here to be a knuckle-dragging mouth-breather.<BR/><BR/>David, keep up the good work and ask the tough questions directly to Helton and Pembleton that we all want to know.---Paul BowenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-64113662238232930612008-02-14T11:50:00.000-05:002008-02-14T11:50:00.000-05:00To the people that are saying Tony put Kurt in the...To the people that are saying Tony put Kurt in the wall... Did you watch the video? If Kurt wouldn't have ran up the track to block a car that was past his bumper there would be no issue. Kurt caused the wreck! If the penalties were for on track action Tony should not have been included. I thank Tony for punchiung Kurt. I only wish it would have been taped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-16446227005915440352008-02-14T11:26:00.000-05:002008-02-14T11:26:00.000-05:00Anonymous at 2/13/2008 11:32 PM said... I think ...Anonymous at 2/13/2008 11:32 PM said... <BR/><BR/><I>I think most of you are missing the fact that Stewart put Busch in the wall before Busch hit him. I think he should have put Stewart in the wall.Stewart is one of those that says do as I say not as I do. How about Daytona when Stewart ran all the way to the grass to run Matof the track and wrecked him and Nascar did nothing to him.</I><BR/><BR/>Exactly! Why do so many people give certain people a proverbial "free pass" on this kind of thing? Kurt was ahead and it was the car behind him's responsbility to find enough room to pass. Stewart didn't. He's always like a bull in a china shop. "Let me by because of who I am" not unlike a driver from the past who has been cannonized not that he's gone. And that lame "Tony is just being Tony" line is ridiculous too! So he should get away with anything on or off the track because "that's just how he is?" But Busch is always crucified for anything <I>he</I> does? Talk about a double standard.<BR/><BR/>I also remember Stewart just sweeping down and wrecking Kenseth two years ago at Daytona for no good reason. How people can call him the best driver out there is really beyond me! He's simply the biggest bully among active drivers today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-47206217215721864092008-02-14T10:57:00.000-05:002008-02-14T10:57:00.000-05:00Anon said "Kurt Busch has been fired from his ride...Anon said "Kurt Busch has been fired from his ride while in the chase (and still the defending Cup champion)... "<BR/><BR/>I knew someone would have to go there...<BR/><BR/>Monkee said"anonymous #49, maybe #4 had a point calling Senior a bum - he didn't speak up for anyone but himself and was among the more two-faced drivers in the garage area, famous for calling other drivers "candy asses" if there was controversy about speeds yet once admitting "I was nervous as hell during those tests" because of the speeds involved."<BR/><BR/>Umm what form of NASCAR have you read, watched or ever seen? Sr stood up to NASCAR and NASCAR listened to him. Do a little research prior to that statement.He didnt take any crap from anyone in there...<BR/><BR/>Marc "This despite the fact it's private info between NASCAR, the testing facility and the miscreant. As such anyone willfully releasing the info is subject to visiting his/her lawyer.<BR/><BR/>Same goes for the Tim Richmond thing<BR/><BR/>Guess you also support the airing of Crocker/Evernham dirty laundry in public.<BR/><BR/>Something that the public at large has no business knowing."<BR/><BR/>For once I agree with you 100%<BR/><BR/>Funny thing is David "calls out NASCAR" but will be the one there at the 125's doing his usual for and with them... Kinda ironic<BR/><BR/>BY KURT 2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-27707063265348758852008-02-14T10:24:00.000-05:002008-02-14T10:24:00.000-05:00It's NASCARS game . They make the rules . They cha...It's NASCARS game . They make the rules . They change the rules -at will . The NASCAR hierarchy live in a fantasy world that they have created and that they control completely . We are expected to believe everything they say , and not believe our eyes or our common sense . You notice that NASCAR has mandated that all seats in the grandstands be painted in semi- random contrasting colors . This is to fool the tv audience into thinking that the seats have people sitting in them . How cynical is that ? More important , how sad is that ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-82459035768622224212008-02-14T10:17:00.000-05:002008-02-14T10:17:00.000-05:00NASCAR has about lost me as a fan. Thank goodness...NASCAR has about lost me as a fan. Thank goodness Formula 1 is less than a month away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-60472576688518796402008-02-14T10:10:00.000-05:002008-02-14T10:10:00.000-05:00NASCAR is behaving as any authoritarian body behav...NASCAR is behaving as any authoritarian body behaves. They make rules, then proceed to break them at their leisure. They treat the fans and obviously the media as lap dogs at best, and curs at worst. As in all other areas of life, when you have a ruling body who declares that ONLY IT has the answers and those answers are correct, things start to deteriorate. <BR/>NASCAR is in trouble because the leaders do not respect those that brought them to the dance, and so will most likely, down the road, go home alone.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03954328745390058363noreply@blogger.com