tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post4573147233653885414..comments2024-01-11T19:29:38.859-05:00Comments on Life in the Turn Lane: Could Busch series prosper without big names?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-73938140943916737732007-12-17T10:42:00.000-05:002007-12-17T10:42:00.000-05:00Foolish to watch a series fall apart because greed...Foolish to watch a series fall apart because greedy promoters and greedy owners do not want to change. I would give no points to anyone in the top 35 owners or drivers in cup teams.Limit each team to ten races only and no points.Same with cup owners.Brian get a pair of balls and fixed the nationwide junk series. It plain sucks to watch 20 drivers from sprint cup dominate each week._frankeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-74680600913152988212007-12-11T14:49:00.000-05:002007-12-11T14:49:00.000-05:00The folks who complain about the Cup drivers in Na...The folks who complain about the Cup drivers in Nationwide, want the Nationwide series to be like ARCA. What would ARCA be then?RevJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197393011402035296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-46933463942534402462007-12-11T10:18:00.000-05:002007-12-11T10:18:00.000-05:00What's the point of worrying 'bout the Grand Natio...What's the point of worrying 'bout the Grand National / Busch / Nationwide series as a feeder series. As of late, Cup has only been interested in untested foriegners and yankees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-19967795072962268672007-12-10T18:15:00.000-05:002007-12-10T18:15:00.000-05:00hughdogg is right in that the influx of Grand Nati...hughdogg is right in that the influx of Grand National superteams into the Sportsman Series has done more than anything to bankrupt the series. I think, though, that his solution is impractical, as it ignores that the big name drivers would still bring realtime track knowledge to races that are companion to Grand National events, knowledge greater than the series regulars could bring because the Cup regulars would have run the track far more in their Cup cars that weekend.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-9105583004143461952007-12-10T00:22:00.000-05:002007-12-10T00:22:00.000-05:00I don't believe the problem in the Busch (now Nati...I don't believe the problem in the Busch (now Nationwide)series is the drivers....it's the OWNERS! Few regular teams can compete with Hendricks, Roush, and Gibb's teams. They have too many other resources and basically their Nationwide cars are scaled down Cup cars. The solution is to keep them from furnishing cars to the series and allow their drivers to compete in other owner's cars (regulars in the series). Another option would be to let the owners "in" but they couldn't run the brand they normally run. Hendricks would have to run a Ford Dodge or Toyota, Roush couldn't run Ford, etc. This takes the engineering and excessive wind tunnel time out of it and provides no advantage to the owner as extra practice time on the track, but it still allows the big name drivers to compete. Food for thought!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-86917846361063481382007-12-09T12:45:00.000-05:002007-12-09T12:45:00.000-05:00The Nationwide Series will do just fine if they do...The Nationwide Series will do just fine if they don't have the Cup drivers in it every week. There has always been plenty of driving talent to fill the series with good people and put on great races. Hopefully the rumors are true and this will become a series for the Mustangs and other smaller bodied cars. I think that will also keep the interest of the fans focused on this series. Personally, I hope they keep adding more road courses to it too.germancarsonlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01650106839153406418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-88172407498305710872007-12-09T02:29:00.000-05:002007-12-09T02:29:00.000-05:00Where is the excitement for the fans if you get th...Where is the excitement for the fans if you get the same thing on Saturday as on Sunday? Nextel Cup is overexposed as it is, and the value on cup tickets is dwindling with each passing race, why on earth would you, if you were Nascar, want your superstars racing on a day where the ticket prices are cheaper and the racing audience is less? I think its a problem when the casual fan says, hey I can goto the Saturday race and see my drivers for less than on Sunday. <BR/><BR/>And oh yeah, I agree with Gossage being a fool. There had to be 75,000 people in the stands when Lajoie won the Busch race at Daytona in 99. There certainly werent 6000 people in the stands when Jeff Green won the Busch title in 2000. The Busch series didnt get to where it is today because it had 20 cup guys in each race. <BR/><BR/>I asked Dave Moody this and he gave me a drunken BS response and ill ask it here. What is so damn exciting about cup guys, in cup equipment dominating a Triple A series? <BR/><BR/>Another question ill ask again...<BR/><BR/>Dont you find it pathetic when one of the "biggest moments" in 2006 was when a busch regular in a busch team won a race??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-3513920542523808232007-12-09T00:29:00.000-05:002007-12-09T00:29:00.000-05:00Gossage is a fool, a total and utter fool. The Sp...Gossage is a fool, a total and utter fool. The Sportsman Series was able to stand on its own for decades, and as meeklo braca notes, they raced superspeedways before superb crowds when there were far fewer WC interlopers - in fact I recall Randy LaJoie's 1999 Daytona win off the top of my head where only a few WC guys ran, crashed out, and the finish was between LaJoie, Jeff Green, Mike McLaughlin, Andy Hillenberg - the hero of Rockingham - Casey Atwood, and Adam Petty, and nobody minded that there wasn't a WC regular to be seen. Such was also the case in the Talladega 300s of 1995-6 when only a few Cuppers entered; the 1995 race, one of the wildest and nastiest races ever seen, was between such "worthless" names as Chad Little, LaJoie, Jeff Fuller, Dale Fischlein (Dave Marcis' crew chief), Jeff Green, Elton Sawyer, and that's off the top of my head as far as BGN regulars.<BR/><BR/>The series was quite popular and healthy with little WC intervention. It was when NASCAR allowed more and more WC intervention that the ability for a series regular to run there was destroyed, and the argument that the regulars can learn to become better racers by competing against the Cup guys has never proven to be true. <BR/><BR/>Just what are people who support WC guys in support races afraid of if NASCAR actually flexes some leadership and bans WC participation?Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-86721568489859101472007-12-08T17:17:00.000-05:002007-12-08T17:17:00.000-05:00Permitting anyone who can show up with a legal car...Permitting anyone who can show up with a legal car and a driver lisenced to run at that track to attempt to make the field is the oldest tradition in racing. Anyone who wants to mess with that loses all right to ever complain about Nascar upsetting traditions.<BR/><BR/>If the Busch/Nationwide were a development series drivers would be REQUIRED to run in that series and achieve certain milestones before advancing to Cup. They not and it is not -- it is simply a racing series with certain equipment specs (that, IMO, have been allowed to converge too closely to Cup specs).<BR/><BR/>Fix the problem of equipment specs that make "testing in the Busch series" worthwhile and the problem of excessive Cup drivers will go away without needing silly, arbitrary rules defining who may race how many times in what series.<BR/><BR/>And yes, the Big Names are needed. Some of us will watch any race just because its a race. But many are driver fans who will only watch when they can see a driver who interests them. No fans, no sponsors. No sponsors, no series.<BR/><BR/>That's the bottom line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-27391337995108554172007-12-08T16:10:00.000-05:002007-12-08T16:10:00.000-05:00Amazing the doom & gloom predictions, touted as fa...Amazing the doom & gloom predictions, touted as fact, by people who dont approve of cup drivers in the Busch/Nationwide series... <BR/><BR/>NASCAR hasnt called that series the minor leagues or a developmental series, they are treating it as a true major league sport... the Busch East & West regional series are more a developmental series than anything.<BR/><BR/>I like the cup drivers in the Nationwide series, and if I were a cup team owner, thats exactly where I would want my developmental driver - racing against guys like Harvick, Edwards, Stewart - but without the high stakes that are found in the Cup series... yeah, they may get their butts whipped, but its great experience. <BR/><BR/>Yes, there is room for improvement, but without the big names, major TV coverage and large crowds will disappear. <BR/><BR/>Going to a Busch race is a great, economical option for guys like me who want to bring my kids to see cup drivers race, but without having to pay $125/ticket...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-43581405000305538172007-12-08T15:40:00.000-05:002007-12-08T15:40:00.000-05:00NO he doesnt make a heck of a point. In 1999-2000 ...NO he doesnt make a heck of a point. In 1999-2000 when Busch series regulars were winning races at Daytona, Talladega and Charlotte, they werent racing in front of 6000-8000 people. The sport is bigger now, all across the board. The Nationwide series isnt going to disintegrate if they only let 6 or 7 cup regulars run against the busch regulars. The Nationwide series will disapear if they continue to let 20-25 cup regulars run each week while running the busch regualrs out of business. <BR/><BR/>Dont you find it pathetic when one of the "biggest moments" in 2006 was when a busch regular in a busch team won a race??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com