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TITLE="色情"><B>色情</B></A>納,地位等同美國的「花花公子」創辦人海夫納。<BR><BR></B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-48095382191243822952008-04-29T13:52:00.000-04:002008-04-29T13:52:00.000-04:00Where have the Independents gone? The top 35 cooke...Where have the Independents gone? The top 35 cooked their goose but at least it kept Toyota outside looking in for a while. The only place you'll see independents any more is your local short track graveyard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-52638961866141655892008-02-24T11:43:00.000-05:002008-02-24T11:43:00.000-05:00If we get rid of Brian France there will be no mor...If we get rid of Brian France there will be no more questioning whether the sport is dying or not. He is the 'thing' that is killing the sport. The question really is 'how do we get rid of him'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-31527336496385184352008-01-31T12:49:00.000-05:002008-01-31T12:49:00.000-05:00nh_nascarfan, the rules of 2006 and 2007 have no c...nh_nascarfan, the rules of 2006 and 2007 have no credibility. "They're the rules." No, they aren't, they're a fraud and people see through it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>toyphd, the trend <EM>is not</EM> one of growth. The numbers don't support your assertions about the sport's demographics, otherwise there would be no opposition to tracks in NYC or Seattle and no controversy over speedway fratricide. A speedway could get built in these demographics <EM>if they actually wanted one.</EM><BR/><BR/>It is not a business, it is a sport.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-58229594528344039482008-01-27T16:43:00.000-05:002008-01-27T16:43:00.000-05:00Most of the problems NASCAR has are due to one per...Most of the problems NASCAR has are due to one person, Brian France. We the fans don't like the chase, cot, train races (restrictor plates)and the way top 35 get in and others who show up on a regular basis and miss the race by a eyelash. Announcers stink, hotels rip you off as well as NASCAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-68221101422273768862008-01-22T12:16:00.000-05:002008-01-22T12:16:00.000-05:00Hello Mr. France family butt kisser,Time will prov...Hello Mr. France family butt kisser,<BR/>Time will prove that you are basically wrong in every aspect of the situation presently presenting it self with Nascar.<BR/>Brian France the idiot grandson will run a great motor sport organization to the ground, just as Tony George has done with open wheel and that moron Bill Ford did with the company his ancestor created and at one time was the largest in the world. I find it ironic that Toyota is going to become a power house in Nascar at the same time the fan base is bailing out on it. Will you and the lame brains managing Nascar get a clue when Nascar races start looking like IRL races (empty grandstands)? I give it 5 years at the most.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-40440515283076286542008-01-21T21:51:00.000-05:002008-01-21T21:51:00.000-05:00Monkeesfan - 'nh_nascarfan, anonymous #78 did get ...Monkeesfan - 'nh_nascarfan, anonymous #78 did get the facts straight. The rules that won Jimmie Johnson the title have no credibility and people see through it.'<BR/><BR/>Again, complete proof that you have no concept of what FACT actually is. The rules that won JJ the championship in 2006 & 2007 are just that - the rules. Its what they are now, now what you wish they were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-91782935450232434762008-01-20T22:05:00.000-05:002008-01-20T22:05:00.000-05:00A little bit of information is a dangerous thing. ...A little bit of information is a dangerous thing. <BR/><BR/>While it is true that ratings are down almost across the board from last years races to the previous years, the overall trend is still one of growth. The overall viewership, product sales, subscriptions, ad revenues and total audience is continuing to grow.<BR/><BR/>Also, the demographics have improved across the board and are at their highest levels ever. The average NASCAR viewer has a higher education level and more disposable income than ever. That translates into revenue.<BR/><BR/>Other parts of the country do want NASCAR, the numbers support it. Any place in the northeast where they couldn't get a track built was because the real estate is too valuable and NASCRAR wanted insane amounts of money.<BR/><BR/>It's a business, get over it. Whatever they lose in their "original face base" is not hurting them at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-23481988224130537192008-01-20T19:55:00.000-05:002008-01-20T19:55:00.000-05:00@ca.rr.comTV commercials are taking the fun out of...@ca.rr.comTV commercials are taking the fun out of watching a race on tv. Way too many. This last season channel 7 was the worst. They had just as many commercials as any other tv show. Other sports have timeouts, even hockey calls "tv timeouts"! Don't interupt the race! throw a "tv yellow", but don't take away the thrill of seeing Tony Stewart crash live and then throw his little hissyfit. go # 17Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-46838767492245404862008-01-17T18:19:00.000-05:002008-01-17T18:19:00.000-05:00nh_nascarfan, anonymous #78 did get the facts stra...nh_nascarfan, anonymous #78 did get the facts straight. The rules that won Jimmie Johnson the title have no credibility and people see through it. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous #84 hits a good point by noting NASCAR's alienation of its real demographic in its mad pursuit of mythical "new markets," never mind that those "new markets" don't want NASCAR.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-30203658861351324962008-01-17T08:38:00.000-05:002008-01-17T08:38:00.000-05:00The facts are that NASCAR is losing ratings, I don...The facts are that NASCAR is losing ratings, I don't think it has anything to do with the aforementioned "myths". Google it, I'm not kidding. This may be overly simplistic but I don't think Poole even addressed what is really killing racing, the fact that NASCAR sees fit to alienate their Southern base. When we are gone (and we are leaving)Nascar is in trouble. How are Nevada and California gonna support what we have for 50 years?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-45534520148188939322008-01-14T13:09:00.000-05:002008-01-14T13:09:00.000-05:00Anonymous, I'm glad you support Evolution instead...Anonymous, I'm glad you support Evolution instead of Intelligent Design.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-56497974540354278322008-01-11T22:33:00.000-05:002008-01-11T22:33:00.000-05:00From watching races now to watching my tapes of ra...From watching races now to watching my tapes of races from over ten years ago, a person can see a big difference from a competition stand point. The racers from back in the day had to earn there way into the sport. They had experience racing and then had to start off with a lower funded team to make an impression and then slowly prove themselves to work their way up. With their trying to prove themselves and being noticed they created exciting racing. Now teams have developemental drivers that get trained how to drive instead of proving they can drive. There is no need to work their way up they just drive the car and the competition has suffered from it. Look at the Life of Dale Earnhardt and compare it to a driver like Kyle Busch or JJ Yaley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-72370153989535680752008-01-11T21:50:00.000-05:002008-01-11T21:50:00.000-05:00the whole thing in a nutshell is money, let 1 man ...the whole thing in a nutshell is money, let 1 man or woman have 1 car,factory sheet metal,and less spoiler an airdam.let the engine specs stay the same,no plates.then let all qualify,the fastest 43 race, the way it used to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-891049651728003122008-01-11T21:31:00.000-05:002008-01-11T21:31:00.000-05:00'Get your facts straight man! Jeff Gordon DID scor...'Get your facts straight man! Jeff Gordon DID score the most points last season. If he didn't, explain to me why the NASCAR fantasy league has him ranked as #1!!!!!!!'<BR/><BR/>Yes, during the 'regular season' he did. But during the playoffs he didnt. Those are the rules, everyone played by them, and Jimmy Johnson won the championship. Case closed - stop whining and stop living in a fantasy world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-58561163320545533522008-01-11T09:57:00.000-05:002008-01-11T09:57:00.000-05:00David, I sure am glad that someone had the guts to...David, I sure am glad that someone had the guts to speak up for once about things that are and things that are not. I worked at the Daytona Airport(not saying for who) 25 years and have seen the titness of most of the France family. Bill France was not. He really believed in racing and loved the sport so much. I had 4 reserved seats for many years until the price got so over priced that I had to give them up. That broke my heart. I have posted many comments that went by the wayside. Thank you very much for speaking up. Most of the remarks are really true. Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-90320324884223529352008-01-10T21:28:00.000-05:002008-01-10T21:28:00.000-05:00Get your facts straight man! Jeff Gordon DID scor...Get your facts straight man! Jeff Gordon DID score the most points last season. If he didn't, explain to me why the NASCAR fantasy league has him ranked as #1!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-66976284678027494602008-01-10T02:53:00.000-05:002008-01-10T02:53:00.000-05:00I feel sad for the Jeff Gordon fans who have given...I feel sad for the Jeff Gordon fans who have given up any hope for the ability of their driver to win a championship under the Chase Championship rules. I feel he is still one of the best drivers in the field, and he has the drive, talent, and determination to win another championship. I don't think he sees the playoff system as being a hinderence to winning his next Cup Championship. <BR/>Dave, do the guys with the tinfoil hats follow you around everywhere?RevJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197393011402035296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-82815043589305244292008-01-09T22:25:00.000-05:002008-01-09T22:25:00.000-05:00The TV ratings were down for 2007 & we all look fo...The TV ratings were down for 2007 & we all look for who or what is to blame. But how to get them back up? How about Jeff Gordon trying to tie Richard Petty & Dale Earnhardt with 7 championships? Since he already has 6....oh wait, the Chase has taken away 2 of them. Oh well, maybe next generation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-35644669578346916382008-01-09T20:42:00.000-05:002008-01-09T20:42:00.000-05:00Re: Myth #5. It's not the new fans that are killin...Re: Myth #5. It's not the new fans that are killing NASCAR, it's the "Fans" that corporations allow into the pits and garage area with open-toed shoes and halter tops and not a clue what the heck is going on around them! (Wine coolers?) Sponsors give out passes to the folks who help them move product or otherwise line their pockets - it's a circus to them. Joe six-pack might save up all year to afford a chicken bone seat and never set foot in the pits - even though he knows more about compression ratios, rookie points and proper attire (like earplugs). Just my $00.02 worth. Oh, and if NASCAR was still the way it was "back in the day" Tony Stewart's teeth would have been knocked out a long time ago!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980508376512022350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-60697396312925051422008-01-09T11:29:00.000-05:002008-01-09T11:29:00.000-05:00David, Do me a favor and spare me the "myth" that ...David, <BR/><BR/>Do me a favor and spare me the "myth" that the fans and the media agree about anything when it comes to NASCAR. All of you media guys ( my apologies to the female media personnel), who keep cowtowing to NASCAR so you wont get cut off from your information sources is nothing more than your trying to keep your job. The fans have been completely adamant about <BR/>NASCAR and their "policing" of the driver sentiments, emotions, and comments to you folks who seem to care less. There are arguments for both sides of this cause, but dont try to soften the blow by claiming that the fans are responsible for the shoddy journalism that is protrayed when one of you decides to pick out a target in the driver ranks and hammer on them until they break. <BR/><BR/>This is just another example of you folks not having enough to do with your spare time. Or at least I hope it is, because if you are getting paid to blame the fans for your "profession's" lack of creativity, shame on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-83121739464371520422008-01-09T08:17:00.000-05:002008-01-09T08:17:00.000-05:00GrayAntiMatter said... "6. Its more about feel...GrayAntiMatter said...<BR/> "6. Its more about feelings than facts? At least he got one thing right there. It IS about how the race/event makes you feel. No one has to jump back to Pre-Richard Nixon days to compare today’s racing..."<BR/><BR/>Man you got that one correct. I have looked back at the 'good ole days,' and even though I am a fan of those days there were many races over many seasons where only 2 cars finished in the same lap, and other similar finishes. But there was a strong character about those years that will never come around again. And you cannot deny that the sport has lost great great characters through either retirement or death. I still long and wish for the years that we could have seen in their prime at the same time: Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki, Tim Richmond and others. When we lost Fred Lorenzen Curtis Turner Bobby Allison Cale Yarborough LeeRoy Yarbrough David Pearson Harry Gant Dale Earnhardt Fireball Roberts Joe Weatherly, man we lost some great talented and mild to wildly eccentric characters that propelled this sport to greatness. The issue of Luck Dawg and liberal use of yellow flags would make these guys through up. No one can deny that in the last 5 years that yellow flag has saved many many races from having a runaway winner with a lap on the field. That artificial altering of race endings is just wrong and it flies in the face of the foundation of this sport. And if NASCAR doesn't see that the fans see that manipulation then they are much more dense than I thought. If you relive that race in 2006 where Jeff Burton was the leader and Robbie Gordon threw a piece of rubber out to cause a caution flag, that day to me was the beginning of the end. Sure, I know drivers have done that for eons. Hey, I ought to know, there is a current Cup driver on the circuit now who did it for the team I was on in 1984. But that NASCAR threw that caution for a little piece well off of the racing groove was just amazing. Changed the outcome of the race. Hey and go back to 1998 when Dale Jarret was blacked flagged at Watkins Glen for oil on the back of his car. He wasn't dumping oil it was NASCAR's way of altering race and championship outcomes. If any doubt see Bill Gazaway years. Hey maybe it's gone on much longer. Or ask Ron Bouchard what it cost him to not move to the Carolinas when he was driving. Ask him what a late but great racing official said to him about that. So the yellow flag thing is real but it's just the tip of the iceburg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-89205983233263988082008-01-09T05:03:00.000-05:002008-01-09T05:03:00.000-05:006. Its more about feelings than facts? At least he...6. Its more about feelings than facts? At least he got one thing right there. It IS about how the race/event makes you feel. No one has to jump back to Pre-Richard Nixon days to compare today’s racing to "the past". While I doubt anyone would be dumping 5+ laps on the field, the truth is the large number of lead lap cars in today’s events are a by-product of NASCAR free flying yellow flags. And it’s amazing how so many events just so happen to have yellow flags within the length of a green flag from the finish. Yeah, that doesn't have anything to do with closer finishes. And since when is the margin of victory the absolute measure of the competitiveness of a race? It isn't. I just don’t understand how someone can watch a 2005-2007 Cup race and compare it to events from just ten years prior and not take notice of the palpable difference in what a NASCAR Cup race has become. The lack of fire, the vanilla spirit of just go out and try not to do anything stupid for 95% of the race and then see how good you can finish without scratching the car! What’s happening on the track in Cup today lacks something.<BR/><BR/>5. NASCAR doesn’t care about new or longtime fans. They care about paying fans. I think it’s foolish to abandon a loyal fan base in favor of a group of yuppies that are fair weather fans. Wasn’t the NHL booming 15 years ago when they made that mistake? There has to be a reasonable compromise here. Personally I never cease to be amused by “fans” that validate their stance in any discussion by proclaiming their longevity as a fan. Everyone is allowed to comment on NASCAR as they see fit, and the great irony of this is how this truth slaps this entire list of six right in the face. But what do I know, I’m sure I haven’t been a fan as long as David Poole.<BR/><BR/>4. I couldn’t agree more! Look what Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Jason Leffler, JJ Yeley, Ryan Newman, Kasey Kahne, Robby Gordon, Casey Mears and their ilk have done to our precious sport! Oh wait, I’m an open-wheel fan! There is no traditional path to NASCAR Cup anymore. And get used to drivers coming from “other” paths so long as NASCAR does nothing to nurture the Busch/Nationwide series, and the Truck series is a retirement ground not a grooming ground. Where do you expect them to come from, the NASCAR Regional touring series? They’re not going to be making the jump straight from there to Cup. How do F1 stars, IndyCar and ChampCar champions not qualify for a shot in Cup? Its so hard for a team to run up front and attract dedicated sponsors, they have to take a chance on drivers. Most of these guys coming in have proven talent, proven they can win on the big stage against great talent, and can attract sponsors. <BR/><BR/>3. The Chase isn’t killing the sport. It’s just choking off the airway while the poison of the Top 35 rule is being injected into the sports veins. When the autopsy is performed, there will be multiple causes of death announced and The Chase can’t possibly take full credit/blame. The Chase is awful. Period. It kills everything the sport is about. It doesn’t increase the importance of the last ten races, it negates the importance of the first twenty-six. Everyone was clamoring for a change in the points, myself included. And well, as the old saying goes, be careful what you ask for, NASCAR just might misinterpret it. We wanted a change, not a poor modification. No one wanted a “playoff”. No one wants a playoff now. We wanted a change! We wanted individual races to mean more. Not just the last ten, but all of them. We wanted the driver who went for the most to be rewarded, not the driver who survived the most through cautious actions. People wanted a revision, we got a bad modification. No one wanted NASCAR Cup to become more like “stick and ball” sports. We loved it because it was different from that damn “stick and ball” sports. We love and celebrate that difference and anything designed to make it more like “stick and ball” sports can’t be good.<BR/><BR/>2. This is pretty funny. Every time a driver someone doesn’t like shows personality, the fans scream that this driver (usually Robby Gordon, Tony Stewart, Kurt Bush or Carl Edwards) should be fined/parked/banned/etc. This is just something fans attach to, regarding drivers they already don’t like. If they’re a Jeff Gordon/Jimmie Johnson/Kasey Kahne fan, then of course they’re going to hate on drivers like Robby, Tony and Kurt. If a person is a fan of Robby, Kurt and/or Tony (cause no one actually likes all three of those guys, right?) then they’re not going to like the plain jane vanilla approach to everything that the Jeff Gordons, Kasey Kahnes and Jimmie Johnsons take. The only catch is you see a lot more of the vanilla brothers in commercials, in interviews, and in the media in general, so that’s the kind of drivers that the sponsors go after. That was until they went after any formula-style openwheeler that was available….<BR/><BR/>1. The Top35 is the worst rule in the history of any type of organized sport. Its not that it feeds the rich (it does, but that’s not the worst part of it), its that it fees the mediocrity. Look, it really should be the top 43 on speed that get into the race. Comparing it to the NHRA is silly because in the NHRA no one compares to John Force (and the NHRA did survive just fine when Force missed out on the event). NASCAR Cup would have to have Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Jimmie Johnson, Dale Earnhardt Jr and Kevin Harvick all fail to qualify for the same event for this perceived meltdown to happen, and that’s not going to happen. Regardless, the easy way to resolve this issue would be to bring back a second day of qualifying. Two days of qualifying, none of the top teams should ever miss out due to something silly like a blown motor in qualifying. And if they do fail to make it in the race with two sessions, then they simply don’t deserve to be there. And back to the real issue of mediocrity. Having this system that locks in Hall Of Fame racing while locking out Team Red Bull, simply can be what anyone had in mind in preserving the “important” teams in Cup events. All the rhetoric I heard when this abomination was introduced, was about protecting sponsors, not drivers. After Red Bull, NAPA, UPS, Dominos and so many other sponsors were hurt by this rule, the rhetoric changed to drivers. OH MY GOD, WE HAVE TO SAVE JUNIOR AND JEFF GORDON! Yeah, those two guys really need more help. This rule doesn’t protect Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt Jr, it protects guys like Casey Mears, Reed Sorenson, and David Gilliland. Guys who may or may not be teetering on the edge of falling out of one the precious locked positions at any point during the season. And it does so at the expense of guys of like AJ Almendinger, Sam Hornish Jr., and Boris Said. And what’s even more ridiculous, is how these points can be shuffled around? Now Sam Hornish Jr. is suddenly locked into the top 35! If that move alone doesn’t highlight the absurdity of this pathetic rule, nothing else will. Go back to two sessions, and put the fastest cars in the race. I think NASCAR can survive one big name driver missing a race a lot better than it can survive locking out major sponsors, cutting off the path for new blood to come into the sport and insulting the intelligence of their fans. But again, what do I know, I’m sure David Poole has been a fan longer than I!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com