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ISC needs to be a separate entity away from Nascar.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12757685228419041917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-78905134029633106692008-12-18T13:42:00.000-05:002008-12-18T13:42:00.000-05:00Roger, good points. I'm alsao sick of hearing Neva...Roger, good points. <BR/><BR/>I'm alsao sick of hearing Nevada doen't have real NASCAR fans. Hey we get over 150,000 to each race and they pay the winner big bucks $425,000 last race.<BR/><BR/>We also have a driver who won a bunch of races-- 21 I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-83968648943113640462008-12-18T09:29:00.000-05:002008-12-18T09:29:00.000-05:00I find it amazing how so many people contradict th...I find it amazing how so many people contradict themselves. <BR/>First they say "NASCAR his outdated and needs to keep up with the times!" Then turnaround and complain that they no longer race at the old grassroots tracks that got them started! Then you hear "The racing is boring, it should be like it used to be!" After that they complain when a driver wins by 20 car lengths, and forget that by "the good ole days standards", when it was rare for more than 3 cars to finish on the same lap, that would be a barnburner! Also, yes the stands have recently been only 75%-80% full, but let's look at real numbers, not percentages, NASCAR races still sell more tickets to an event, than amy other sport in America, so being #1 is that a reason to shutdown? So called NASCAR fans are the most hippocritical people I have ever seen. They claim to love the "racing" but don't support the tracks that had the best racing because their wasn't a great nightlife in town. Let's also remember that these same people almost never support their local tracks where there is some great racing. 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It is true that NASCAR should not only be looking into alternative fuels but also promoting those same fuels and using them. It is true that nowadays, in the "immortal" words of Harry Hogg - "...there is nuttin 'STOCK' about a stock car..." and as you can imagine, even Ol' Harry Hogg would not exactly be thrilled about some of this. Its even true that NASCAR in some measure has become so "corporate" minded that they seem to be losing some of their identity. Case in point - who wants a Jimmie Johnson tshirt when The Intimidator sounds much cooler, right? In todays corporate nonsense, much of NASCAR, drivers, owners, and the like have sold themselves for that corporate sponsor who pays the bills.<BR/><BR/>In the interest of argument, however, I will respectfully disagree with Mr Weintraub. I believe, especially right now in times of collosal chaos and bedlam on Wall Street and with the Big Three losing face, that the manufacturers actually need NASCAR more than NASCAR needs the manufacturers. Remember the old adage "Win on Sunday Sell on Monday"? NASCAR fans have to see those manufacturers producing quality products that they want. In order to gain some of that exposure, those automakers have GOT to put those drivers in their Impalas, Fusions, Avengers, and Toyotas. If you look at the numbers, well, they do not lie. Manufacturers do tend to seel their products more efficiently when those same products are seen on Sunday whizzing down the front straight at Talladega or dodging trouble at Michigan. Its that simple.<BR/><BR/>And right now, thats not even working.<BR/><BR/>Some of the reasons are clear, like the rising costs for teams, fans, and sponsors. Som e of the reasons are not that clear, such as why Detroit has never beckoned to the call to produce more energy efficient alternative fuel cars, or even battery or electric cars which may not even need fossil fuels. Whatever the case, it may be a little late in the game to be making those changes, but the bottom line is with the economy going south, it will be harder for NASCAR to continue its long standing affair with Detroit unless changes are made, and fast.<BR/><BR/>It is not impossible, however, as some suggest. As Mr Poole pointed out, NASCAR and the automakers have from time to time gone their separate ways. While I am not exactly sure of how that would happen now, I can tell you almost assuredly, that as long as its got 4 wheels, an engine and a driver, its gonna get raced somewhere. It may be that as the Big Three pull back some that other manufacturers step in, or better yet, NASCAR and the teams find ways to race that are not nearly as money gobbling as it is now. If NASA can put a man on the moon, then NASCAR will find a way to race, even if it means cutting some races out and reducing the schedule, expanding some of the engine rules, and moving in the direction of alternative fuels.<BR/><BR/>For my part, I can only wait with baited breath for the green flag at Daytone in February, and that is what ALL of us want to see!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-38545890512456972312008-12-17T20:29:00.000-05:002008-12-17T20:29:00.000-05:00The above comments reflect several aspects of "the...The above comments reflect several aspects of "the sorry and depraved state of NASCAR and its proponents."<BR/><BR/>Time will tell if the sport will flourish or wither....but things do no look good right now. The future, with relation to the economy, is out of NASCAR'S control.<BR/><BR/>Think and say what you wish, but what will be, will be.<BR/><BR/>The stark reality facing teams, owners, drivers and fans may be a big stop sign.<BR/><BR/>If David Poole and Mike Bagley start alternating days on Sirius Radio, we'll know NASCAR is really in trouble!<BR/><BR/>Also, if Brian France was as smart as Monkeesfan, NASCAR wouldn't have any problems....and racing would be perfect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-16850462920763695522008-12-17T15:04:00.000-05:002008-12-17T15:04:00.000-05:00I attended my first race at Martinsville in 1955. ...I attended my first race at Martinsville in 1955. I got to see the Flocks, Buck Baker in a Chysler 300, Curtis Turner, Joe Weatherly in a '56 Dodge convertible, Ned Jarrett (I think) towed in with an open trailer behind a Chevy pickup, semis for the Chrysler 300s were the only covered transporters; in other words, I witnessed what MADE the sport, and BRANDS for fans to root for, as well as buy. I've told all who would listen that if I win a big lottery I'll try to establish a STOCK CAR sport, i.e.: you go to the showroom, pick a car, take the body off, put it on an approved frame, bust out the glass, gut it of seats, dash, etc., put in the safety stuff, choose an engine that company makes, cover the lights with metal plates, and go race a FORD, CHEVY, whatever!! Not a cookie-cutter you could knock the fenders off of and race in Indycar. What can't people see?!?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-5121895393944674172008-12-17T14:53:00.000-05:002008-12-17T14:53:00.000-05:00NASCAR is an antiquated dud that relies of high sc...<B>NASCAR is an antiquated dud that relies of high school dropouts to pay corporate prices to attend. </B><BR/>There are many of us with college degrees who enjoy NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>And I find it amusing that you want to disparage fans' intelligence, but then say you don't understand the rules.<BR/><BR/>Even the "high school dropouts" in the stands can explain them, so maybe you're not quite as smart as you think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-70631820048427510832008-12-17T14:50:00.000-05:002008-12-17T14:50:00.000-05:00Where's this guy's article about shutting down oth...Where's this guy's article about shutting down other major sports that are nothing like they were in the good ol' days?<BR/><BR/>We got players juiced up on steroids in baseball, NBA players who can travel six miles while making a dunk but couldn't hit a free throw if their contract depended on it, and don't get me started on the NFL.<BR/><BR/>The guy's argument is just plain silly. Racers have raced without manufacturer support in the past and will do it in the future, if neecssary.<BR/><BR/>The only conclusion I can draw is that the writer was looking for a topci that would get people riled up (and thus, get it linked on the websites), and this is the topic he chose. It worked, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-8260970639552269642008-12-17T13:37:00.000-05:002008-12-17T13:37:00.000-05:00NASCAR is an antiquated dud that relies of high sc...NASCAR is an antiquated dud that relies of high school dropouts to pay corporate prices to attend. The cars all look exactly alike, the drivers all look exactly alike and the tracks all look exactly alike (except Bristol). Who wants to watch a bunch of cruddy American cars go round and round when the technology is 20 years old, the rules unexcplainable and the drama somewhat similar to watching turds fry in the summer sun?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-57636251032177432782008-12-17T12:11:00.000-05:002008-12-17T12:11:00.000-05:00Here's another hole in Weintraub's argument about ...Here's another <A HREF="http://www.american.com/archive/2008/november-december-magazine/why-gasoline-is-still-king" REL="nofollow">hole in Weintraub's argument about alternative fuels.</A>Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-3004178628082072782008-12-17T11:44:00.000-05:002008-12-17T11:44:00.000-05:00Anthony makes so many stupid, unsupported statemen...Anthony makes so many stupid, unsupported statements, that it's not worth the effort to even address them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-46502888782754500702008-12-17T11:12:00.000-05:002008-12-17T11:12:00.000-05:00Anthony said... "Nascar is a Stupid sport with a b...Anthony said... <BR/>"Nascar is a Stupid sport with a bunch of hillbillies going around in circles, it failed to be real racing, get it , Nascar is not exciting, is just as bad as wrestleling,"<BR/><BR/>And you just another dumb colored boy who cant spell ... BTW you better get down on all 4s and thank whites for bringing your ancestors out of the jungles when they were needed about as bad as a hole in the head. And dont forget who invented racing, basketball, football, etc plus everything else. Take a look at modern day Africa and see if you like what you see? <BR/>Best thing you can do is shut the hell up you ignorant punk. Go back to sckool and learn to read write spell and understand reality a little better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-4027293208277497092008-12-17T10:26:00.000-05:002008-12-17T10:26:00.000-05:00those days are over boys, get real !! i like the g...those days are over boys, get real !! i like the good old times just as much as you do, but reality dictates otherwise!!<BR/><BR/>people like Bush contribuited to the dilution of America !! now we have to deal with his mess!! Nascar is one of the victims of his stupidity !! and the people that was sucked into voting for him !!In God we trusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609788746672624026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-16027401018127921862008-12-17T09:10:00.000-05:002008-12-17T09:10:00.000-05:00I'm 60. My first race to attend was the 1958 Darli...I'm 60. My first race to attend was the 1958 Darlington 500 overnight in a lawn chair in the infield. A war zone...lol. At age 8 with my Dad. I miss the old drivers like Fireball, Curtis Turner, Pearson, Cale etc. And I miss Ernie 'Swervin' Irvan, Dale, and the old tracks. And Nascar has become a joke with giving the second place finisher the win this year...a lot of that. Races ending under caution etc. And the new tracks are just boring. Now I only watch Daytona, Talledaga and two or three others. The new points format is a joke. I enjoyed the Rock, but its closed now. We need drivers who will mix it up and swerve a little.Reno Blueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381059378714514012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-41815175784906686832008-12-17T09:02:00.000-05:002008-12-17T09:02:00.000-05:00Nascar does not need to go What and who needs to g...Nascar does not need to go What and who needs to go is Toyota they have no business in the America's greatest sport. They need to go back to The Rock,North W, and get rid of Texas 2nd race and also CALIFORNIA in feb. Nascar has alot of fixing up to do or more of the 15 years and older fans will not watch it no more. We need to go back in the day like it was in 1997's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-31210344254850217152008-12-17T08:44:00.000-05:002008-12-17T08:44:00.000-05:00Truly people's nerves are getting sticky about thi...Truly people's nerves are getting sticky about this issue, and the passion of the fans will not make the France Klan made the changes needed to have Nascar survive, the sport is doomed, unless it re -invents itself in a way that is appealing to the new generation of race fans, the Red neck hillbillie era of Nascar is over, guys and gals get real, Nascar under the right management has the Potential of becoming a world class sport , something that a closed minded France has not been able to do, let me set the record straight i Support Nascar, but it's current format is obsolete, it needs to evolve , those days are over !! <BR/><BR/>WHEN THINGS OUTSIDE YOUR WORLD ARE CHANGING FASTER THAN INSIDE YOUR WORLD , YOU ARE IN TROUBLE!!<BR/><BR/>OR BETTER YET......<BR/><BR/>IF YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THINGS AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS, YOU ARE INSANE !! IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !!!In God we trusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609788746672624026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-23999219032598612152008-12-17T08:22:00.000-05:002008-12-17T08:22:00.000-05:00Claire's Thong -- Please don't hide behind your ph...Claire's Thong -- Please don't hide behind your phony name. My email is dpoole@charlotteobserver.com. If you have criticism of my behavior, don't fire at me from behind a rock.David Poolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165043399748036425noreply@blogger.com