tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post3336310451587487909..comments2024-01-11T19:29:38.859-05:00Comments on Life in the Turn Lane: No one was trying to make anyone madUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-23069736692499587112008-02-04T09:42:00.000-05:002008-02-04T09:42:00.000-05:00When Chevy's win, Ford (Jack Roush and fans) compl...When Chevy's win, Ford (Jack Roush and fans) complain to Nascar. When Jack put 5 cars in the Chase in 05, we never heard a peep from the Ford camp (until Tony won it). I grew up in Daytona, went to all the races, and all the preseason testing. I remember EVERY year Ford would ask for "help" from Nascar with an extra quarter inch spoiler here, a half inch valence there... so they could compete better with the GMs. Those days are gone with the common body types which is exactly why Nascar did what they did with the COT. Ford can no longer complain that the Chevys have an advantage. They need to work their way to the top, and if that requires a bit more testing, then thats what they need to do. Jack would have called Nacsar the second he heard the Chevy and Dodge camps were testing. Its not a secret they were doing it. One team even tested at New Smyrna Speedway, 15 miles from Daytona. You dont think that was public knowledge?!?! Jack always thinks Nascar is out to get him, and favors Hendrick. But Gibbs has won 3 Cups in the last 9 years, Roush 2, Hendrick 3, Yates 1. If anyone should be complaining it should be the Dodges....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-86936679709537798762008-01-30T16:02:00.000-05:002008-01-30T16:02:00.000-05:00Abob - "now compare that to a week long vacation a...Abob - <I>"now compare that to a week long vacation at the beach or the mountains for almost the same cost.</I><BR/><BR/>How many race cars are at the beach?<BR/><BR/><I>"nascar tell the tv cameras to stay off the fights, tape the interviews or the arguments and show then on a delay so you can BLEEP out the bad stuff every kid hears on the school bus or playground."</I><BR/><BR/>Stay off the fights? Got proof? How about a super-duper secret memo, bot one to prove your point?<BR/><BR/>T thought not, move along now. And BTW if NASCAR DOES do that, how is it we see Gotdopn push people in the pits, or Robby slammin helmet across the race track etc... etc?<BR/><BR/><I>"for now i am going to watch the girls college softball world series where they still come to play the game with heart and desire and the rules are the same fro everybody who steps on the field of play -- guess what if you don't follow the rules -- you sit on the bench or go home!!!!!!!!!!"</I><BR/><BR/>Excellent idea! Enjoy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-63924253529975568232008-01-30T09:23:00.000-05:002008-01-30T09:23:00.000-05:00why are ticket sales down? What does it cost for a...why are ticket sales down? <BR/>What does it cost for a family of 4 to attend a weekend of racing - 500.00 to 2500.00 on the low side depending if they want chicken bone seats or best you can get.<BR/><BR/>now compare that to a week long vacation at the beach or the mountains for almost the same cost.<BR/><BR/>and of course the racing SHOW sucks<BR/>let them run its called racing for a reason it's not a drive-a-thon.<BR/><BR/>nascar tell the tv cameras to stay off the fights, tape the interviews or the arguments and show then on a delay so you can BLEEP out the bad stuff every kid hears on the school bus or playground.<BR/><BR/>listen to the fans, yes catch the cheaters and make them pay -- not money beacuse they make so damn much no matter the amount its only pocket change to them -- make them sit out a race or 2 -- oh the sponsor will get pissed -- good maybe that will stop the cheating<BR/><BR/><BR/>for now i am going to watch the girls college softball world series where they still come to play the game with heart and desire and the rules are the same fro everybody who steps on the field of play -- guess what if you don't follow the rules -- you sit on the bench or go home!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-9570478768934324302008-01-29T15:04:00.000-05:002008-01-29T15:04:00.000-05:00anon - "years ago the manufactures had to sell so ...anon - <I>"years ago the manufactures had to sell so many vehicles to be allowed to race that car. Racing was exciting when they had to race what you sell, now they are all the same body just different front and decals."</I><BR/><BR/>Ummm... no, they had to build "X" amount of cars to be allowed to race that particular model not sell a certain amount of them.<BR/><BR/>And what would happen if that were imposed on the manufacturers in say... 2010?<BR/><BR/>They'd in all liklihood pull out of NASCAR. 'Cause with all but a couple of exceptions they don't produce cars that are rearwheel drive, version, with two doors not 4, and are powered by carbureted engines.<BR/><BR/>The cost of doing so even at the level that was required over three decades ago - which was 500 cars produced for sale - they wouldn't they'd be GONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-53718354747330095902008-01-29T01:01:00.000-05:002008-01-29T01:01:00.000-05:00years ago the manufactures had to sell so many veh...years ago the manufactures had to sell so many vehicles to be allowed to race that car. Racing was exciting when they had to race what you sell, now they are all the same body just different front and decals. We have some real talent today but no real competition. The cars are the same and the races have become furl mileage tests. Lets put competion back in the sport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-41857125824040974952008-01-27T22:54:00.000-05:002008-01-27T22:54:00.000-05:00The ratings are falling and ticket sales are flat....The ratings are falling and ticket sales are flat. Could it be because the cars are now all identical. Could it be because they only go straight, turn left, go straight, turn left, go straight, turn left, everybody into the pits at the same time and then the big accident. Seen one seen them all. O yeah they last 3 to 4 hours and you have to listen to DW. Believe me Meet the Press is more fun to watch.Bob in Boisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384574610046500040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-38988121573383009172008-01-27T11:52:00.000-05:002008-01-27T11:52:00.000-05:00nh_nascar fan - "The problems seem to arise when p...nh_nascar fan - <I>"The problems seem to arise when people present their opinion as fact. For example, my real life opinion is that there should be no top 35 rule. But that is my OPINION. Shame on me if I present it as fact... i.e. 'NASCAR must abolish the top 35 rule in order to improve ratings' or 'the reason NASCAR is losing viewers is the top 35 rule'. Marc has disagreed with many of these 'facts', but has backed up his statements with facts and links."</I><BR/><BR/>Because as you well know tidy little echo chambers and the denizens that reside in them hate it most when their bubble is burst.<BR/><BR/>They live in a world that believes "it's me, me and only me," a world that turns the display of an alternative view, supported by indisputable facts, into "you're a bully!"<BR/><BR/>And it's all too easy on the internet, as the many "anons" in these threads atest to. They have strong opinions (well, some do a select few thoughts come from Uranus or Venus), which is a good thing, but the wrath of the "Anon Gutless Wonders" be upon you if you shake their tree in the slightest.<BR/><BR/>And frankly a few of these idiots are just what NASCAR left a few years ago. Unfortunately they didn't notice their "use by date" has expired and are still hanging around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-21403781276434034052008-01-27T10:21:00.000-05:002008-01-27T10:21:00.000-05:00Folks, before you get offended by Marc, perhaps yo...Folks, before you get offended by Marc, perhaps you should examine the reasons that you are out here posting. The point is to encourage 'intelligent discussion'. Opinions are fine as well, nobody is against them. The problems seem to arise when people present their opinion as fact. For example, my real life opinion is that there should be no top 35 rule. But that is my OPINION. Shame on me if I present it as fact... i.e. 'NASCAR must abolish the top 35 rule in order to improve ratings' or 'the reason NASCAR is losing viewers is the top 35 rule'. Marc has disagreed with many of these 'facts', but has backed up his statements with facts and links. So why have people jumped all over him and started calling him names? If he is so wrong, provide some data to back yourself up. A link. Anything. If you cant, try this... read what he says with an open mind and then reexamine your position and recognize that you may in fact have missed something and may wish to reexamine your position. <BR/><BR/>Instead, all we get are baseless charges that (1) NASCAR cheats and alters races by throwing phantom cautions, (2) The CoT sucks and doesn't allow teams the room to break the rules and cheat (hmmmmm, interesting relationship between 1 and 2), (3) The teams with the resources dominate (there's a surprise) which has to stop, unless it involves the CoT which is, as of now, the best solution to decrease costs so the smaller teams can compete which has been one of the biggest ongoing complaints (forget about a salary, or spending, cap; it wont work and will only bring about the all so common charge that NASCAR has too much control over the teams...). <BR/><BR/>Heres the deal folks. Not everyone believes that NASCAR is as much of a mess as is written. I for one am one of those people, make me an apologist for NASCAR and BF if you like, but in my opinion its not that bad. But if you all think so, the stop watching all together. As you all know, if the TV numbers continue to decline and ticket sales drop, NASCAR will sit up and take notice, and perhaps they will one day 'see the light' of those on the blog who seem to have all the answers. But heres the catch folks... as long as you continue to watch and buy tickets, your complaints will go unheard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-11518222573016533512008-01-27T06:32:00.000-05:002008-01-27T06:32:00.000-05:00I'd like to address two points. First, as a "long...I'd like to address two points. First, as a "long-time" NASCAR fan I'm glad to hear that NASCAR remembers I'm out here as opposed to focusin on gaining new fan base.<BR/><BR/>Nothing against all you new fans (welcome to NASCAR!) but it's about time that NASCAR considers who all the chagne they are implimenting to "gorow the fan base" is impacting us old boys.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, from a rules / regulatioons prospecdtive I see NASCAR rapdily comeing more and more like F1. I don't like F1. If I wanted to watch teams who have to work inside such a tight box I'll watch F1. <BR/><BR/>It's a sad day when the most exciting thing about a race is waiting for the penalties to come out the following Tuesday. <BR/><BR/>NASCAR need to make some changes - the TV rating and race attendance are sending them a clear signal - let's see what they do about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-70379610622936711762008-01-26T22:56:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:56:00.000-05:00gt's_girl - "marc, first you say you widh (sic) yo...gt's_girl - <I>"marc, first you say you widh (sic) you could watch the 24 hours, then your not sorry you don't have speed tv, which is it? If there's something you don't want to watch, don't turn it on!"</I><BR/><BR/>What? Quote it, where did I say anything of the sort?<BR/><BR/>My first response to you bringing up the subject of the 24 hours was as follows: <I>"Sorry, widh I could, the 24 hours isn't available where I am."</I><BR/><BR/>Sorry "widh" is not read as it should be ("wish") but the following words within the same sentence are pretty plain to the most casual observer. ("the 24 hours isn't available where I am."<BR/><BR/>Apparently a casual observer you're not and you <I><B>may</B></I> only see what you wanna see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-14937520962418854522008-01-26T22:49:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:49:00.000-05:00anon (#2,209,9587) - "Once again I see this has be...anon (#2,209,9587) - <I>"Once again I see this has been taken over by MArc...Whats the matter MArc? Is nobody taking your blog serious? Or did your mother not love you enough...OR are you related to David and need to defend his column (sorry Dave i know cheap shot)#5</I><BR/><BR/>"Taken over" anon #2,209,9587 (Geesh, there's alot of you around), how so? Based on available evidence, i.e. numerous comments by others not named "marc" I'd say that's a pretty baseless change.<BR/><BR/>As for my blog, it speaks for itself, show me one that has been a finalist three of the last four years in the Weblog Awards and I might take some solace in the fact you may be right.<BR/><BR/>'Til then it's chalked up as yet another baseless charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-44609711448788138722008-01-26T22:36:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:36:00.000-05:00anon - "MarcI have been been watching your little ...anon - <I>"Marc<BR/>I have been been watching your little show the last few days. Awhile back you corrected Me on a comment I made.I read what you advised me to.I was not wrong but you had to condem me for what I said.I feel sorry for you and hope to god you don't own a dog....."</I><BR/><BR/>It would be nice if you pointed to the thread and comment (and the apparent link I seem to have provided) in an effort to further the discussion. You didn't, so you win by default, and join so many others that don't want discussion beyond their tightly held beliefs no matter how right or wrong they may be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-55467790290661296542008-01-26T22:32:00.000-05:002008-01-26T22:32:00.000-05:00Dave - "You are it. last word and all. Good deal. ...Dave - <I>"You are it. last word and all. Good deal. Checkered flag. Just one question though: did you mom have any kids that lived?"</I><BR/><BR/>Glad you think so Dave, but sorry to say you're sadly mistaken, I'm not "it."<BR/><BR/>And yes she did, and while she was around she taught me to be more civil in any debates, something that apparently is sadly lacking in your upbringing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-43090861945592866842008-01-26T21:40:00.000-05:002008-01-26T21:40:00.000-05:00Once again I see this has been taken over by MArc....Once again I see this has been taken over by MArc...Whats the matter MArc? Is nobody taking your blog serious? Or did your mother not love you enough...OR are you related to David and need to defend his column (sorry Dave i know cheap shot)#5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-91689470894963262592008-01-26T17:05:00.000-05:002008-01-26T17:05:00.000-05:00MarcI have been been watching your little show the...Marc<BR/>I have been been watching your little show the last few days. Awhile back you corrected Me on a comment I made.I read what you advised me to.I was not wrong but you had to condem me for what I said.I feel sorry for you and hope to god you don't own a dog.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-78568208950266181252008-01-26T16:11:00.000-05:002008-01-26T16:11:00.000-05:00ha ha Dave! love the sarcasm. marc, first you sa...ha ha Dave! love the sarcasm. <BR/><BR/> marc, first you say you widh (sic) you could watch the 24 hours, then your not sorry you don't have speed tv, which is it? If there's something you don't want to watch, don't turn it on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-84739041726193266972008-01-26T15:28:00.000-05:002008-01-26T15:28:00.000-05:00Hey MArc, I give in; you win. I am no match for su...Hey MArc, I give in; you win. I am no match for such superior intellect. I got my up&cummins handed to me by you. You are it. last word and all. Good deal. Checkered flag. Just one question though: did you mom have any kids that lived?<BR/><BR/>PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-56423289758535533062008-01-26T14:42:00.000-05:002008-01-26T14:42:00.000-05:00"marc, sorry you can't watch the Rolex 24. It star...<I>"marc, sorry you can't watch the Rolex 24. It starts now on SpeedTV if you get that where you are."</I><BR/><BR/>Nope not avail here (Philippines). And don't feel sorry, I don't miss 4,000 repeats of "Pinks," or non-stop and idiotic NASCAR reality shows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-29711186068960650902008-01-26T14:34:00.000-05:002008-01-26T14:34:00.000-05:00marc, sorry you can't watch the Rolex 24. It star...marc, sorry you can't watch the Rolex 24. It starts now on SpeedTV if you get that where you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-69083540988972152122008-01-26T14:07:00.000-05:002008-01-26T14:07:00.000-05:00gt's_girl "Reading these postings, that's a half h...gt's_girl <I>"Reading these postings, that's a half hour of my life I'll never get back. I have to agree with Dave on this one. Quit yer bickerin' and turn on the TV, we're racin' at Daytona for 24 hours!"</I><BR/><BR/>Sorry, widh I could, the 24 hours isn't available where I am. I have to be content with watching the <A HREF="http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/index.php/ex-f1-drivers-eat-speedacar-dust" REL="nofollow">Speedcar Series</A> and Asian GP2 this weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-47668830535499526972008-01-26T14:02:00.000-05:002008-01-26T14:02:00.000-05:00g in maine - "Here's a suggestion for the restarts...g in maine - <I>"Here's a suggestion for the restarts after a caution period (regardless of the reason for it), throw a red, space the cars around the track at the intervals they held pre-orange, drop the green rag and get it on."</I><BR/><BR/>Throw a red? How does that address the many complaints that races are WAY too long as it is?<BR/><BR/>Hey what the hell, why not "pull an NFL" and allow TV timeouts for commercials and stop all the cars for them?<BR/><BR/>Sorry, unworkable.<BR/><BR/>Better suggestion (IMO): Maintain the Lucky Mongrel with this exception, institute what was started in the Busch East Series (now Camping World whatever series). Line-up restarts with all lead cars at the front of the field. Whoever was awarded the Lucky Mongrel, if there is one, is in the first row/slot and each lapped car lines up in order behind him/her.<BR/><BR/>That totally eliminates lapped cars being in the way of the leaders on restarts and still allows the lapped cars to fight among themselves for position.<BR/><BR/>IT's worked very well during last season and I'd bet a buck or two the rule will be in Sprint Cup within a year or two.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and BTW, a laps led bonus should only be paid for passes made under green flag conditions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-16762507016283284152008-01-26T13:56:00.000-05:002008-01-26T13:56:00.000-05:00Reading these postings, that's a half hour of my l...Reading these postings, that's a half hour of my life I'll never get back. I have to agree with Dave on this one. Quit yer bickerin' and turn on the TV, we're racin' at Daytona for 24 hours!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-42744191569952467552008-01-26T13:33:00.000-05:002008-01-26T13:33:00.000-05:00Hey MARC,Nope, I had a mental lapse because as a U...Hey MARC,<BR/><BR/>Nope, I had a mental lapse because as a USAC type fan my favs wheel w/o fenders. That includes all those guys too. Now don't go Jr. on me because I appreciate the late model/modified drivers. <BR/><BR/>Here's a suggestion for the restarts after a caution period (regardless of the reason for it), throw a red, space the cars around the track at the intervals they held pre-orange, drop the green rag and get it on. <BR/><BR/>If I were to win a contest for any race week-end of my choosing, I would opt for the Knoxville Nationals. BTW that's not in TN.<BR/><BR/>gailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-62308831060929161232008-01-26T13:19:00.000-05:002008-01-26T13:19:00.000-05:00gail - "...I remember last season there was a yell...gail - <I>"...I remember last season there was a yellow for a piece of soft debris that was down out of the groove that cost Tony Stewart (a real racer from the midwest) the win. It was obvious he had built a safe lead but was destined to fail in a few lap finish. Go NA$car"</I><BR/><BR/>Yep, my mind works to and if you'll notice I never said controversial calls haven't been made. They will happen, in every sport.<BR/><BR/>One simple question, is it possible from your comment - "Stewart (a real racer from the midwest" - you favor that driver more so than say... a Gordon or Johnson that is from OMG the frickin' west coast!?<BR/><BR/>Is it possible that may have slanted your opinion of the incident?<BR/><BR/>That aside, for anyone to think a multi-billion dollar industry would put that business at risk with consistent and blatant favoritism towards a single driver or team is poppycock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-63650919737915583102008-01-26T12:54:00.000-05:002008-01-26T12:54:00.000-05:00MARc - you're a pistol!"The day someone can produc...MARc - you're a pistol!<BR/><BR/>"The day someone can produce a memo or other verifiable documentation that proves NASCAR purposefully tossed a Yellow to alter the outcome of a race it's all theory, and conspiratorial one at that, that rivals Area 51 and 9/11 nutcases thought process."<BR/><BR/>I don't have a memo, but my mind still works and I remember last season there was a yellow for a piece of soft debris that was down out of the groove that cost Tony Stewart (a real racer from the midwest) the win. It was obvious he had built a safe lead but was destined to fail in a few lap finish. Go NA$car - if it weren't for a fun day out with friends, I would stay home and knit while listhening to Bluesville on XM.<BR/><BR/>G in MaineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com