tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post2051674054581721605..comments2024-01-11T19:29:38.859-05:00Comments on Life in the Turn Lane: Let's hope settlement isn't the endUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-35734269906050289352008-12-30T01:50:00.000-05:002008-12-30T01:50:00.000-05:00$225 million? Was Grant disabled? Did she lose a l...$225 million? Was Grant disabled? Did she lose a limb? There is no reason a person asks for that kind of money other than extreme greed. I am sickened by folks like her that misuse the justice system. Nascar settling to make this end, is in no way an admission to anything. I find it hard to believe Grant was abused and emotionally distraught. It appears she used her race and gender so she wouldn't have to work for a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-53103421797700799352008-12-23T18:46:00.000-05:002008-12-23T18:46:00.000-05:00David, and you know what, exactly? Grow the hell ...David, and you know what, exactly? Grow the hell up. We may not know a great deal here, but one thing we all know is a settlement means nothing as far the credibility of her case.<BR/><BR/>nh_nascarfan makes some very good points.Monkeesfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14522953722006761283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-27726673528955638862008-12-23T11:49:00.000-05:002008-12-23T11:49:00.000-05:00Ok, here are the true facts of this case…NOBODY wh...Ok, here are the true facts of this case…<BR/><BR/>NOBODY who has written anything knows squat about the true facts of this case. Not Poole. Not Monkeesfan. Not anyone.<BR/><BR/>So that being said, this really is a waste of a conversation, as it’s obvious that it’s full of assumptions and nobody has any facts at all to back themselves up.<BR/><BR/>Monkeesfan says it’s a farce and not true. Oh? Prove it. Were you there? No. So you really don’t know, you only assume... and remember what happens when you assume.<BR/><BR/>Poole wasn’t there either, yet it seems as though he is quick to tell NASCAR they better shape up. Agree or disagree with him, the overall tone of his writings is that NASCAR is certainly guilty. <BR/><BR/>Of course, is it possible that there is a culture in the garage that may lend itself to this behavior? Sure. Of course that doesn’t mean it happened, and if you CHOOSE to work there, then you certainly have to accept that culture does exist IF you want to be accepted as a part of the society. That may not be fair, but it’s the way it is… after all, as David says, fair is where you go to get funnel cakes. <BR/><BR/>The real question is where does that line exist? Was it crossed? And was it crossed to the tune of 250 million dollars? And did crossing that line absolve her of a poor work performance? <BR/><BR/>For those who think a settlement is an admission of guilt: clearly, you have never dealt with this type of decision. NASCAR was looking at millions of dollars in legal fees and perhaps years of bad PR, even if they were 100% innocent! Versus a settlement that makes it all go away for perhaps pennies on the dollar of what she was suing for. Does anyone know for sure she is going to be rich? How much was the settlement? If you were NASCAR, would you make this go away for, say, $100000? <BR/><BR/>One thing is painfully obvious from the comments on this blog though – racism and sexism is alive and well in this country, and in the NASCAR fan ranks. <BR/><BR/>The sad part is that someone nailed it… all it did was create an animosity between men and women and blacks and whites in the garage that probably wasn’t that bad prior to this mess. You can’t legislate tolerance and manners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-50112350384855505602008-12-22T12:04:00.000-05:002008-12-22T12:04:00.000-05:00I 100% agree with the last comment from Anonymous....I 100% agree with the last comment from Anonymous. Living in California it's a common thing to run the numbers any time you get sued. If it costs 1 million to defend your position and go before a Russian roulette jury or you can pay 1/2 million and make it go away..... Which would you choose? <BR/><BR/>Anyone hear about the guy going around to various businesses in California insuring they were handicap accessible? He brought his tape measure and if anything was 1/4 inch off, he sued the business. (Maybe NASCAR can use this guy in their tech inspection line.) He was not trying to make anything BETTER.. except himself. It was so bad the courts finally had to use some archane law saying he could not sue any more. Long and short, he shook down HUNDREDS of businesses for at least $5,000.00 EACH. May the Devil have a special place waiting for him. <BR/><BR/>No matter how much NASCAR was wrong or right it ALWAYS comes down to money with NA$CAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-59320020191930835702008-12-21T23:52:00.000-05:002008-12-21T23:52:00.000-05:00It is entirely possible that NASCAR determined tha...It is entirely possible that NASCAR determined that it was cheaper to pay Ms. Grant than their attorneys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-83377537539992886132008-12-21T22:58:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:58:00.000-05:00OK legal experts, answer me this. If NASCAR is in...OK legal experts, answer me this. If NASCAR is innocent and the victim of a scam in this case, WHY DID THEY SETTLE?<BR/><BR/>The complete answer will consider the potential loss or gain by both parties of both settlement and trial. <BR/><BR/>I look forward to more substance for my lunch time conversations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-90716592101511564872008-12-21T14:39:00.000-05:002008-12-21T14:39:00.000-05:00It never ceases to amaze me that the term racist g...It never ceases to amaze me that the term racist gets the same treatment as communist did back in Eugene McCarthy's day. People who use this word, do not know its origin. It originated in the French Revolution to describe those who were a member of the proletariat who ended the monarchy. If you were not a "Rasciste" , you would have your turn at a dance with Madame' Guillotine. Fast Forward to the 21st century and the irony of it all is that the offended are indeed the racists themselves. I am not intimidated by anyone who accuses me w/the R word. I just laugh at the effort to use such a strong word , when prejudice or perhaps bigot for stronger behaviour would be more appropriate. The REAL truth is that the Marxist courts and media have perpetuated this debacle. Common sense ended when men quit wearing hats in Ike's era and went hatless in JFK's term. We have never been the same since.Pawmettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12145236155811616746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-3128791195309780772008-12-21T12:16:00.000-05:002008-12-21T12:16:00.000-05:00I have to say some of the dumb ass, racist comment...I have to say some of the dumb ass, racist comments here make me embarrassed to be a NASCAR fan.<BR/><BR/>You ought to be ashamed of yourself writing that stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-10902317766321265392008-12-21T12:15:00.000-05:002008-12-21T12:15:00.000-05:00I have to say some of the dumb ass, racist comment...I have to say some of the dumb ass, racist comments here make me embarrassed to be a NASCAR fan.<BR/><BR/>You ought to be ashamed of yourself writing that stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-69939548970718221472008-12-21T08:28:00.000-05:002008-12-21T08:28:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... i am white all yall are jelous s...Anonymous said... <BR/>i am white all yall are jelous she got money so all u cry. at least she slam nascar really good they went down on this one. showes they were wrong so cry all u that would like to have her money. millions she might even buy a nascar team<BR/><BR/>Go away lil dumb colored boy.<BR/><BR/>Funny how welfare extortion has finally hit NASCAR when it hits the mainstream after ages of gumint giveaways and after the Jesse Jacksons have extorted billions and billions out of corporate America. Its always the same OJ crowd wanting something for nothing using whiplash lawyer liars and in the end that free loot always makes everything well. What a joke. <BR/>Nothing but a 100% lie scam fraud deception bogus way to extort. <BR/><BR/>Dont back down from these lying extortionists looking for a free lunch. They knew how to deal with black trash like this in the old days ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-32999894722452435642008-12-21T03:56:00.000-05:002008-12-21T03:56:00.000-05:00NASCAR took another step backward by cowering to l...NASCAR took another step backward by cowering to legal extortion by paying off the suit. As everyone knows a company doesn’t pay for such financial expenditure but rather pass it on to their customers, the fans.<BR/>All fairness when you have the liberal judicial collaboration like we have today, how can you get an impartial, objective judgment? The moral rot continues. Maybe if NASCAR would have hired Denny Crane and Alan Shore there would have been a different outcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-13327509142636965482008-12-21T01:31:00.000-05:002008-12-21T01:31:00.000-05:00Grant wasn't the first Nascar employee or team mem...Grant wasn't the first Nascar employee or team member to be shoddily treated by the sanctioning body and then get thrown out. She was, however, the first to have an opportunity to go after them and with good representation receive a nice parting gift.<BR/><BR/>I hope she stuck them for everything she could get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-58325856211354500132008-12-20T22:18:00.000-05:002008-12-20T22:18:00.000-05:00Time-line for suits by 2 black women.Ms Browne:1. ...Time-line for suits by 2 black women.<BR/><BR/>Ms Browne:<BR/><BR/>1. Gets a $76,000 bonus for excellent work performance.<BR/><BR/>2. Sues for sexual harrassment.<BR/><BR/>3. Gets fired.<BR/><BR/>Ms Grant:<BR/><BR/>1. Gets poor work appraisal<BR/><BR/>2. Gets fired.<BR/><BR/>3. Sues for one quarter of a BILLION DOLLARS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-74846737201042240632008-12-20T22:05:00.000-05:002008-12-20T22:05:00.000-05:00This whole case was about money. Lots of money. I ...This whole case was about money. Lots of money. I mean the chance of a lifetime.<BR/><BR/>What were the merits? It did not matter. This was about the opportunity of a lifetime. This would be like winning the lotto. Depending where you are, there are chances this might be tax-free. <BR/><BR/>First you have to start out by filing in a black area of NY. Not only do they hate white, they hate the south and NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>Then it has to be for a lot of money. You cannot ganer press attention with a small, reasonable amout. It has to be in the stratosphere.<BR/><BR/>She and her lawyer has to ignore the fact that she had been given bad work appraisals and had been fired for cause. This about money.<BR/><BR/>Why so many bleeding-heart liberals have not seen this suit for what it was, baffels me.<BR/><BR/>Recently there was another big suit in NY. But it was different in many ways. First, the offended party was an executive. She was a Vice-President with a college education and was a former athletic star. This person was Ms Browne. Prior to being fired, she had just received a $76,000 bonus for her excellent work. <BR/><BR/>She sued for sexual harrassement (Isaiah Thomas). She sued for $10 million dollars. She had witnesses and won her $10 mil. Mr Thomas was not fired and just had to attend sensitivity training. <BR/><BR/>So where does Ms Grant, a blue collar worker who makes $30,000 per year get the idea that she's worth more than Ms Browne?<BR/><BR/>Give me a break, this was always about money. Whatever she got, she'll be broke in a year or two looking for another scam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-86735781020207918452008-12-20T20:23:00.000-05:002008-12-20T20:23:00.000-05:00To anyone who is refering other commentors as raci...To anyone who is refering other commentors as racist....Usually when one throws down the race card it is they who are racist. It is they who think of people in terms of groups. It is they who constantly seek victim status. <BR/>So before you lash out at those whom you diagree and call them racist, think before you type. You have no clue what a person stands for. You fire off comments as though you are entitled to make judgements based solely on the fact that another person had the nerve to disagree with what YOU believe to be the popular point of view. It doesn't work that way and you don;t get ot call other racist becauwse you want to silence themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-63627452856741685442008-12-20T20:17:00.000-05:002008-12-20T20:17:00.000-05:00This was another case of going after deep pockets....This was another case of going after deep pockets. This woman who claims all this stuff happened over a long period of time was looking simlly to take advanage of the conditions of our litigious society. Generally Americans will at the drop of a hat run to the nearest courthouse. <BR/>The recurring theme is "is isn't about the money"....Bull crap. Then don't sue for money. <BR/>If I were in the postion to make the decsion I would have litigated this case until hell froze over.<BR/>And anyone who looks at this with glee, shame on you. Because the costs of these ridiculous lawsuits where someone's ego gets damaged are pased along to the consumer.<BR/>David dio not slay Goliath, he just raised your ticket pricesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-39815083596765047212008-12-20T18:24:00.000-05:002008-12-20T18:24:00.000-05:00i am white all yall are jelous she got money so al...i am white all yall are jelous she got money so all u cry. at least she slam nascar really good they went down on this one. showes they were wrong so cry all u that would like to have her money. millions she might even buy a nascar teamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-13676721591347394012008-12-20T18:17:00.000-05:002008-12-20T18:17:00.000-05:00If I'm not mistaken, Ms. Grant and NASCAR settled....If I'm not mistaken, Ms. Grant and NASCAR settled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-81072403559525164512008-12-20T18:10:00.000-05:002008-12-20T18:10:00.000-05:00It is very instructive that Grant filed suit in th...It is very instructive that Grant filed suit in the Southern District of New York, not in the city where she worked.<BR/><BR/>It is also noteworthy that Grant's lwayer had a press release right after the suit was filed, and when NASCAR was contacted by the press, they had not even read the complaint yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-2888505013836015612008-12-20T16:51:00.000-05:002008-12-20T16:51:00.000-05:00John said:NASCAR lost this one big time. They spen...John said:<BR/><BR/>NASCAR lost this one big time. They spend months looking like the big bully and then only settle to undisclosed amounts with presumed guilt. They could and should have kept this quiet and came to the same end. Stupid Stupid Stupid.<BR/>-----------------------------<BR/><BR/>There are MILLIONS who do not think NASCAR looked like a bully or looked guilty. They think NASCAR was a victim of a black woman who got fired and now pulled a scam. <BR/><BR/>NASCAR was not the one that wanted publicity. It was the lawyer and the woman. They want to perpetuate the myth that white American businesses are all racist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-11956273017249125472008-12-20T16:15:00.000-05:002008-12-20T16:15:00.000-05:00NASCAR lost this one big time. They spend months ...NASCAR lost this one big time. They spend months looking like the big bully and then only settle to undisclosed amounts with presumed guilt. They could and should have kept this quiet and came to the same end. Stupid Stupid Stupid.<BR/><BR/>I have to say that the continued opinions expressed in the comments of this blog are quite like no other that I read. Keep it up guys as it makes great lunch time conversation. You can't make this stuff up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-2378600421913231302008-12-20T15:43:00.000-05:002008-12-20T15:43:00.000-05:00I'm skeptical on principle any time a woman cries ...I'm skeptical on principle any time a woman cries "sexual harassment" but never exercised a woman's time-honored privilege to slap the face of a guy who got too fresh.<BR/><BR/>I'm skeptical on principle any time a woman cries "sexual harassment" but didn't scream, make a fuss, yell for help, or run (at least not run anywhere but to her little casebook of "incidents").<BR/><BR/>The stuff Ms. Grant claims merited not merely a slap, a shriek, a public fuss, and an official report to the company superiors but a police report as well. So where are those police records about the CRIME of indecent exposure? <BR/><BR/>If there's no evidence that a woman EVER made a serious effort to say, "You're over the line, buddy," I have to believe that any sexually charged incidents were consensual. <BR/><BR/>Unprofessional? Yes. Grounds for firing all parties involved? Probably. Worth one penny of company money? No. <BR/><BR/>IIRC, when that female engineer, Alba Colon, was asked if she'd suffered any such "harassment" she replied that she'd made it clear that she wouldn't put up with that sort of nonsense and thus had never encountered it.<BR/><BR/>We women have to take our fair share of the responsibility for the workplace atmosphere by behaving professionally ourselves and by drawing VERY CLEAR LINES about what we'll tolerate.3KillerBshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972256857498433293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-26572354528205328892008-12-20T15:37:00.000-05:002008-12-20T15:37:00.000-05:00Why dont whites object being called redneck? This ...Why dont whites object being called redneck? This is a derogatory word equal to the n-word that you cannot say although they say it all they want. Even the media routinely prints anti-white derogatory words like redneck freely without hesitation. Whites should be able to say it but not non-whites like their n-word. Its past time to consider another split off and slavery is not the issue this time as big a mistake as it was before. We need a new nation for about 200 million whites only. This is not racist. We believe in live and let live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-83704960575734266862008-12-20T15:20:00.000-05:002008-12-20T15:20:00.000-05:00She'd been out of work a long time," Benedect More...She'd been out of work a long time," Benedect Morelli told the Associated Press on Friday. "We thought it was in the best interest of our client not to drag this out two to three years. She needed closure. She's a young woman, and when you make the sort of allegations she did, it's difficult to move forward and get on with your life."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh please. Cry me a river. This is 100% a bogus crock. What a stinking liar she was. This is was a 100% scam and a set up from the gitgo. Flimflam. She knew what she was doing. Working the system as usual. Welfare the extortion way. A lot of these lying stealing caniving types such as Jesse Jackson and his crew have extorted billions and billions for ages. <BR/><BR/>Nascar was a sitting duck because they hate the fact that its white. Former Dennys owner and Panthers owner Richardson paid a billion in extortion to these same type crooks in 1995 right before the season began. They had him over by the gonads and he caved allegedly over not serving them in California. <BR/><BR/>Its always the same ole story. They whine to get hired and then they sue for some frivilous meaningless trash. All a set up. A rig. <BR/>Dont hire these people. Stay away or you will be sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24366637.post-47741306398544846872008-12-20T14:56:00.000-05:002008-12-20T14:56:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... "Hey crazy second poster lady......Anonymous said... "Hey crazy second poster lady..."<BR/><BR/>Just how do you read that comment and make the distinction that the poster is female? You must be smart enough to know what was actually said behind closed doors if you are that good!<BR/><BR/>And a shout out to David Poole; you take on one of your commmentors here! That's refreshing - as well as your thoughts are poignant. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com